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== End of Spring ==
== Spring 2020 Schedule ==


* Gundam ends 2 weeks before most things
One day we might even be able to resume meetings after COVID-19 and actually watch it...
* Kino and 10cm end 1 week after most things


So probably a double bill of Kino one week and 10cm the other.
* Fate/Grand Order Absolute Demonic Front: Babylonia
* In/Spectre (Kyokou Suiri)
* Legend of the Galactic Heroes: Die Neue These Second
* Chihayafuru
* Hands off the Motion Picture Club! (Eizouken ni wa Te wo Dasu na!)
* Domestic Girlfriend


== Autumn 2018 draft schedule ==
=== Ending Alignment ===
* Thunderbolt Fantasy?
* AICO Incarnation?
* Huggto Precure? Happy Sugar Life? Akanesasu Shoujo?
* Hanebado? Harukana Receive?
* ???
* ???


=== Nominated ===
Ending:
* Sci-Fi: In/Spectre
* General 1: Galactic Heroes
* Comedy: Eizouken
* Drama/Romance: Domestic Girlfriend


* Planet With (action)
All running 12 episodes.
* Hanebado (sports)
 
** This season's Badminton show
Continuing:
** Sports show / intense character drama
* Action: Babylonia - 10 episodes next cour (accounting for episode 0)
** Good pacing, plenty happening each episode, but not rushed. Technically you could accuse it of playing the tropes a bit at times, but it does so with such verve and good execution that it's really fun to watch. Had me bursting into laughter on public transport several times :-) --maxb
* General 2/Sports: Chihayfuru - 13 episodes next cour
* Happy Sugar Life (romance/drama)
* Natsu no Arashi (comedy)
* White Album 2
** The "2" refers to it being the second anime in that setting, but the storyline is entirely independent. The extent of the overlap is that the protagonists like the same pieces of music.
** Caution: Mild spoilers exist in some episode titles.
** A difficult show to comment on without spoilers. I watched it after having its soundtrack turn up on Google Play Music, and then seeing it turn up in an "if you liked 'Your Lie in April' you might like". In retrospect I should have thought a little more about why it was there. Let's just say the ending isn't all sunshine and happiness and leave it at that. I really liked some parts, and the bits I didn't like I still found sufficiently compelling that I stayed up way too late watching the second half of the series all the way through to the end. Whilst I'm not happy with the chosen direction of the plot, I admire the narrative craft. In the words of http://kotaku.com/white-album-2-is-one-of-last-season-s-hidden-gems-1541072591 (which, if you read, you really need to obey the instructions to skip sections containing spoilers): "If you need a serious romantic drama in your life, there are few better emotional rollercoasters in recent anime than White Album 2. Just don’t expect to come out of it feeling happy and fulfilled." --maxb
* Ore Monogatari (24)
** An unconventional romance, with lots of storytelling to do along the way, and some comedy moments. Though the subject matter is completely different, the viewing experience feels a bit like Shirayuki-hime - there is a continuity, but it's very episodic. --maxb
* Yuru Camp△
** A high quality slice of life that makes me smile. --maxb
* AICO Incarnation (sci-fi/horror)
* Thunderbolt Fantasy S2 (airing in October)
* Sirius the Jaeger (action/fantasy)
* Hugtto! [[PreCure]]
* Harukana Receive (sports)
** The beach volleyball one
** Yes really
** But probably not in the same schedule as Hanebado, I guess
** Early episodes seemed inclined to serve up a fair amount of the fanservice that you might expect from a beach volleyball anime, but it's gradually dialled back leaving a rather sweet, well executed, "mending relationships and growing up through sports" story. --maxb


== Future possibilities ==
== Future possibilities ==
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* Have some reservations about immediately diving into this right after FMAB but I could be persuaded. -MP
* Have some reservations about immediately diving into this right after FMAB but I could be persuaded. -MP
** Have already seen season 1, but would be super enthusiastic for this. - maria
** Have already seen season 1, but would be super enthusiastic for this. - maria
* Chihayafuru S2
* Ore Monogatari
** How many of us have seen S1? I support Chihayafuru as a great show, but feel that people watching S2 without having seen S1 would be missing out on a lot. --maxb
** An unconventional romance, with lots of storytelling to do along the way, and some comedy moments. Though the subject matter is completely different, the viewing experience feels a bit like Shirayuki-hime - there is a continuity, but it's very episodic. --maxb
** I have not seen Chihayafuru and am unlikely to watch it in my own time. --YYY
* Akanesasu Shoujo
* Demon Slayer (Kimetsu no Yaiba)
* Kobayashi-san's Dragon Maid 小林さんちのマイドラゴン
** A light-hearted series with an underlying theme of interpersonal relationships improving people's (and dragons') lives. Best last episode that I've seen for a long time. --maxb
 
=== Shows saved to revisit as backup options if needed ===
 
* Fate/cooking (Emiya-san chi kyou no gohan)
** Semi-short, episodes are ~13 minutes each.
** maxb: Very little happens in this show, but it does so in a soothingly fun way, apt to leave a smile on your face.


=== Proposals which have not been fully evaluated ===
=== Proposals which have not been fully evaluated ===
* Barakamon (12)
* The Magnificent Kotobuki
** Slice of life/comedy/drama about Tokyo calligrapher sent to live in remote Japanese island. --YYYY
** It may seem like some frivolous fun leaning on aerial combat scenes at first, but it's actually some some fair light sci-fi world building by the time it finishes up, too. --maxb
** Seemed promising, based on reading a review, but after I watched a bit of it, I don't find it enjoyable. There's too much of people being obnoxious or irritating to each other. --maxb
* Hugtto! PreCure (general) --lmm
* Sabagebu!
** Enormous committment that will likely be pushed aside, but mentioning just in case
** Comedy about high school survival game club. -YYY
** Definitely the best PreCure that I have watched, outdoing HeartCatch, Suite, Yes! 5, Yes! 5 Go Go (I dropped that one). I'd be on board with watching this again. It wasn't perfect (I think they could have used a bit more budget in the middle of the third cour) but it was fun, endearing, and critically managed to avoid over-using the monster-of-the-week formula for most of its content, which is a pitfall many of the earlier PreCures have fallen into to various extents. Given the format of the show, it could actually work to decide to watch 1 cour and then reassess, if people are hesitant to sign up for the whole 49 episode run. --maxb
** Watched episode 1. Feeling mostly neutral about it: it was kind of amusing at times, but sometimes felt like just a bunch of gags pasted together into makeshift plot. --maxb
** Probably have to give up on this one, as no-one spoke up in favour beyond us two :-/
** Started episode 1, it didn't really hold my attention --lmm
* Fire Force (action) -- AIM
* Non Non Biyori
** I watched episode 1 - no strong opinions either way. Needs an action fan to opine. --maxb
** I enjoyed the first episode up to a point, but don't really feel the need to see more - it was somewhat amusing but ideally we'd find better things for the schedule --lmm
* Kaguya-sama: Love is War season 2 (airs from April)
*** Oh, it's not your suggestion originally (as the wiki history would imply) ? --maxb
** I think we all liked season 1 -- maxb
**** I suggested when we were brainstorming at dinner, on the grounds that CUAMS had watched it.
* Very much iyashikei but has some comedic moments. I loved it but I don't think it's everyone's cuppa. --YYY
** I have now finished both seasons. I can see why this could in some ways be considered the archetypal slice of life. Much verdant green landscapes and childhood antics. Very satisfying, in the sense of being the anime equivalent of a lazy weekend afternoon lying in the sun. --maxb
*** Chronology note: the second season actually occurs, in-universe, simultaneously/interleaved with the first season.
* I don't think Non Non Biyori should go in the comedy slot because half of the audience will be bored to tears. - YYY
** I feel that after two seasons of Rabbit, we're due a change of pace from "girls do everyday stuff in their picturesque town", but that Non Non Biyori could still be a good slot 5 in the future. --maxb
* New Game! (ニューゲーム Nyū Gēmu)
** Cute girls designing cute vidya characters. -YYY
** Seen, liked, would watch again. --maxb
** Watched one episode - seems fun, would watch more. - maria
** Watched at least one episode - willing to watch more - AIM
** There are now two seasons, but season 1 comfortably stands alone. Season 2 was a fun chance to revisit the characters, but would probably seem a bit same-y if watched consecutively with season 1. --maxb
* Poco's Udon World (うどんの国の金色毛鞠 Udon no Kuni no Kiniro Kemari)
** Another propaganda anime for raising birth rates in Japan. Guy from Tokyo goes back to hometown, finds and takes care of a young boy who is actually a tanuki. Hijinks ensue. Also, first anime I've seen with a Maserati in it. -YYY
* Kobayashi-san's Dragon Maid 小林さんちのマイドラゴン
** A light-hearted series with an underlying theme of interpersonal relationships improving people's (and dragons') lives. Best last episode that I've seen for a long time. --maxb
* Ninja Girl and Samurai Master https://anilist.co/anime/21666/NobunaganoShinobi
** A comedy about a ninja girl serving Nobunaga - keeps the jokes flowing at a consistent pace, but not a serious historical show -- AIM
** Short episodes (50s opening, 2m40s content), but we can double up for each meeting


=== Historical Fallbacks ===
See also: [[Animu/OldProposals]]
* Action
** Mirai Nikki
** Black Lagoon
** Hellsing Ultimate
*** Almost-veto from Mark, and awkward to fit into a schedule. (10 x double-length episodes)
* Sci-fi
** Kaiba - older but it seems most of us haven't seen it, and I could stand to watch it again --lmm
*** Watching that scene once in company was enough. It's a good show but I'm not super enthused. - MP
*** The art style leaves me deeply unenthused. (Watched PV and a few minutes of ep 1) --maxb
* Uncategorized
** Ping Pong the Animation


=== Special candidates ===
=== Special candidates ===
* Gundam The Origin (3/6 watched)
* Gunbuster --lmm
* Gunbuster --lmm
* Garakowa: Restore the World - a 1h film from Winter 2016, pretty, good music, and interesting enough, though did leave me questioning why they handled the pacing the way they did. --maxb
* Garakowa: Restore the World - a 1h film from Winter 2016, pretty, good music, and interesting enough, though did leave me questioning why they handled the pacing the way they did. --maxb
* Initial D Legend (a reboot/retelling of the start of the story with better animation - first two watched already) --lmm
* Gochuumon wa Usagi desu ka?? ~Dear My Sister~ (ご注文はうさぎですか?? ~Dear My Sister~) [~60mins] - More GochiUsa for those who liked the TV series. Feels like a 60min episodes more than a movie. --YYY
* TO 2 (Symbiotic Planet) since we watched the first? --lmm
* "Blame! Movie" -- AIM
* Thunderbolt Fantasy movie --lmm pp Lestaki
** https://anilist.co/anime/21498/Blame-Movie/
* '''Gochuumon wa Usagi desu ka?? ~Dear My Sister~ (ご注文はうさぎですか?? ~Dear My Sister~)''' [~60mins] - More [[GochiUsa]] for those who liked the TV series. Feels like a 60min episodes more than a movie. --YYY
** A group of humans trying to survive in a self-replicating city that is trying to kill them. Action/Sci-Fi.
* '''Asagao to Kase-san. (あさがおと加瀬さん。)''' [~60mins] - An OVA of the celebrated Kase-san yuri manga series. Explores the relationship between the eponymous Kase-san and Yamada through a series of vignettes. Erica Friedman likes it so it must be good! --YYY
* Mary and the Witches Flower
** https://anilist.co/anime/97981/Mary-to-Majo-no-Hana/
** AIM: I wanted to see this one when it came out, but missed it.


== Informal planning principles ==
== Informal planning principles ==
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== History ==
== History ==
[[Animu/History]]
[[Animu/History]]

Latest revision as of 13:28, 11 May 2021

Being a place for the planning of communal anime viewing.


Spring 2020 Schedule

One day we might even be able to resume meetings after COVID-19 and actually watch it...

  • Fate/Grand Order Absolute Demonic Front: Babylonia
  • In/Spectre (Kyokou Suiri)
  • Legend of the Galactic Heroes: Die Neue These Second
  • Chihayafuru
  • Hands off the Motion Picture Club! (Eizouken ni wa Te wo Dasu na!)
  • Domestic Girlfriend

Ending Alignment

Ending:

  • Sci-Fi: In/Spectre
  • General 1: Galactic Heroes
  • Comedy: Eizouken
  • Drama/Romance: Domestic Girlfriend

All running 12 episodes.

Continuing:

  • Action: Babylonia - 10 episodes next cour (accounting for episode 0)
  • General 2/Sports: Chihayfuru - 13 episodes next cour

Future possibilities

Shows that we considered schedule-worthy

  • The Legend of Korra
    • Mixed feelings. Episode 1 was painful, Korra is like another Subaru at the beginning. Fortunately they ease off the "this character is naive due to her upbringing and we need to show it" pretty quickly. Seems like it could have some promise, but the plot development seems very formulaic ("Introduce Heroine. Introduce Teacher. Inevitable heroine/teacher conflict. Introduce allies. Introduce nemesis.") - does it manage to grow beyond this? Also a bit wary of another year-long show. --maxb
      • Does it ever cease being a fantasy adventure show? No, at least not in the part I've seen. Does it get into more complex/ambiguous territory, develop meaningful longer-term arcs, and go beyond simplistic good vs evil? Yes, absolutely. (And Korra does suffer for her mistakes and start to learn from them - she'll always be headstrong but not to the point of incompetence the way she is in the first few episodes)
  • Have some reservations about immediately diving into this right after FMAB but I could be persuaded. -MP
    • Have already seen season 1, but would be super enthusiastic for this. - maria
  • Ore Monogatari
    • An unconventional romance, with lots of storytelling to do along the way, and some comedy moments. Though the subject matter is completely different, the viewing experience feels a bit like Shirayuki-hime - there is a continuity, but it's very episodic. --maxb
  • Akanesasu Shoujo
  • Demon Slayer (Kimetsu no Yaiba)
  • Kobayashi-san's Dragon Maid 小林さんちのマイドラゴン
    • A light-hearted series with an underlying theme of interpersonal relationships improving people's (and dragons') lives. Best last episode that I've seen for a long time. --maxb

Shows saved to revisit as backup options if needed

  • Fate/cooking (Emiya-san chi kyou no gohan)
    • Semi-short, episodes are ~13 minutes each.
    • maxb: Very little happens in this show, but it does so in a soothingly fun way, apt to leave a smile on your face.

Proposals which have not been fully evaluated

  • The Magnificent Kotobuki
    • It may seem like some frivolous fun leaning on aerial combat scenes at first, but it's actually some some fair light sci-fi world building by the time it finishes up, too. --maxb
  • Hugtto! PreCure (general) --lmm
    • Enormous committment that will likely be pushed aside, but mentioning just in case
    • Definitely the best PreCure that I have watched, outdoing HeartCatch, Suite, Yes! 5, Yes! 5 Go Go (I dropped that one). I'd be on board with watching this again. It wasn't perfect (I think they could have used a bit more budget in the middle of the third cour) but it was fun, endearing, and critically managed to avoid over-using the monster-of-the-week formula for most of its content, which is a pitfall many of the earlier PreCures have fallen into to various extents. Given the format of the show, it could actually work to decide to watch 1 cour and then reassess, if people are hesitant to sign up for the whole 49 episode run. --maxb
    • Probably have to give up on this one, as no-one spoke up in favour beyond us two :-/
  • Fire Force (action) -- AIM
    • I watched episode 1 - no strong opinions either way. Needs an action fan to opine. --maxb
  • Kaguya-sama: Love is War season 2 (airs from April)
    • I think we all liked season 1 -- maxb

See also: Animu/OldProposals

Special candidates

  • Gundam The Origin (3/6 watched)
  • Gunbuster --lmm
  • Garakowa: Restore the World - a 1h film from Winter 2016, pretty, good music, and interesting enough, though did leave me questioning why they handled the pacing the way they did. --maxb
  • Gochuumon wa Usagi desu ka?? ~Dear My Sister~ (ご注文はうさぎですか?? ~Dear My Sister~) [~60mins] - More GochiUsa for those who liked the TV series. Feels like a 60min episodes more than a movie. --YYY
  • "Blame! Movie" -- AIM
  • Mary and the Witches Flower

Informal planning principles

  • None of this is absolute. These are guidelines only and if following them would mean watching bad shows and not watching good shows then we will overrule them
  • We watch about 2:30 each week - normally 6 normal-length TV episodes from 6 different shows (watching each show from start to finish at one episode per week)
    • If a significant number of attendees will miss one or two meetings (e.g. during holiday periods) we set aside the regular schedule and show "specials" instead.
  • We try to group the schedule into "seasons" (i.e. start and finish a group of shows at the same time) to provide some structure and (at least theoretically) to give newcomers a reasonable point at which to join.
    • Seasons are long enough to complete a "short" show (i.e. 12 or 13 weeks) and do not necessarily align with calendar seasons
    • We aim to start shows when they are still airing, but after enough episodes have aired to reasonably evaluate them (usually three or four)
    • Seasons are named on this page after the "anime season" from which shows could have appeared in that season
      • i.e. if we start a season just before spring ends and summer begins (or even after a few summer episodes have aired, but not enough for summer shows to be considered for the schedule), we will call that season "spring"
      • i.e. at any given time we may be up to a season "behind realtime"
  • Avoid falling into a rut
    • We try to enforce a mix of genres by using "slots"
      • Approximate slots
        • Action and/or general fast-paced
        • Sci-Fi
        • General, faster and/or more serious
        • General or sports, slower and/or more lighthearted
        • Comedy
        • Romance and/or drama
    • Slot order is so that the tonal arc of the evening makes some sense
      • This sounds really wishy-washy, but at the same time it genuinely is surprisingly important - we've had meetings where we watched things in the "wrong" order for technical reasons and it didn't go well
    • We can skip, reassign or "fudge" a slot if there really are no good shows in that genre that season, but we should be very wary if we find ourselves repeatedly skipping the same slot
    • "Current" shows generally take priority over older shows
      • If there are not enough schedule-quality shows then we look to recent shows that we considered schedule-quality but did not make the schedule in a previous season, and/or to "classic" shows
  • Try to reach a consensus but also to broaden our horizons
    • We largely rely on attendees watching at least the first few episodes of a show and then proposing it for the schedule
    • We try to avoid scheduling a show that any attendee strenuously objects to
      • This is not absolute, particularly if there are enough "vetos" to make it difficult to assemble a schedule at all
  • We would prefer to air a show that some love and others dislike (though not hate) than one that everyone is "meh" about
    • This is not to say that shows have to be controversial or provocative (though at the same time we don't shy away from such shows)
      • There is plenty of space for a well-crafted "safe" show, just not for a mediocre one.
      • Shows that are ambitious will ideally be given slightly more leeway regarding weaknesses in other areas.
        • But only slightly.
    • Conversely shows that are content to remain within their genre ("if you want x you know where to find it") will ideally be held to a slightly higher standard.
  • We call shows that two or more people supported and no-one strenuously objected to "schedule-worthy" and list them separately below
    • Experience suggests that we will most likely air them sooner or later
    • This is solely as a matter of practicality; it doesn't imply any firm commitment
  • We can and do drop shows partway through, even partway through a season, but only when there is a firm consensus for doing so
    • Generally if even one attendee was still enjoying a given show we would not drop it
  • The host retains an absolute veto over anything they find genuinely objectionable

History

Animu/History