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Being a place for the planning of communal anime viewing.
Being a place for the planning of communal anime viewing. Seasons are named after the relevant anime season; at any given time we may be up to a season "behind" realtime.


== Future ==
For summer, need replacements for slots 1-5. (Toradora continues in Slot 6)


* Mushishi (slot 4?)
* Knights of Sidonia (slot 1 or 2?)
* Soredemo Sekai wa Utskishii - dropped by Lestaki, so probably not


Older series:
== Spring 2020 Schedule ==


* Madoka (just movie 3? All movies? Fancut?)
One day we might even be able to resume meetings after COVID-19 and actually watch it...
* Haruhi?
* Planetes? (old, but only steven has seen it)
* Minami-ke (old, generically ok)


== End of Winter plan ==
* Fate/Grand Order Absolute Demonic Front: Babylonia
 
* In/Spectre (Kyokou Suiri)
Lmm is away for 2 weeks on July 16th. So we have 5 weeks to fill: June 11th, June 18th, June 25th, July 2nd, July 9th, i.e. 30 episode-equivalents.
* Legend of the Galactic Heroes: Die Neue These Second
With Samurai Flamenco finished we have:
* Chihayafuru
 
* Hands off the Motion Picture Club! (Eizouken ni wa Te wo Dasu na!)
* 2 episodes of Noragami. OVAs will not be out in time (at least not the second one).
* Domestic Girlfriend
* 4 episodes of Space Battleship Yamato
* 6 episodes of Mekakucity Actors
* 4 episodes of Allison to Lillia
* 16 episodes of Toradora, + utterly terrible OVA
 
i.e. 32 episodes counting Toradora. If we assume Toradora will continue at its usual pace we require 25 episodes and have 16, so we need 9.
 
Madoka movies are 4-5 episode's-worth each, as is Time of Eve. The Garden of Words is ~2 episodes, and TO is about 3.5 episodes' worth (spread across two parts). 5cm/s is about 2.5 episodes' worth (spread across 3 parts).
 
Options:
* Madoka Rebellion and either:
** The Garden of Words + 5cm/s
** TO
* Time of Eve movie and as above
* Macross Zero and as above
** Goes well with TO as Macross Zero episodes are slightly overlength; however, mecha overload
* Freedom and either:
** The Garden of Words
** 5cm/s
** Note: I don't actually think I'd like this much, but somehow feel obliged to list it
* Gundam 0080 and either:
** 5cm/s
** TO (15 minutes over)
* Black Rock★Shooter (1 episode short, perhaps + the first part of 5cm/s)
** I (Lmm) dropped the series, but figured it's worth mentioning in case Lestaki wants to make the case for it.
* BPS marathon! You know it makes sense
* Just start 4-5 new series and watch 2 episodes of each before the break
 
Descriptions of possible things:
* Madoka Rebellion hopefully needs no introduction
* The Garden of Words is (I hear) a very visually pretty romance series, all lush gardens. Also feet.
* 5cm/s is a somewhat emo romance/drama - it's by the same guy as Voices of a Distant Star if any of you remember that
* TO is a robot thing with bad-looking CGI. Has a very amusing twist (at least when sleep-deprived at 6AM) but not much to recommend it other than that
* Time of Eve is a very well-regarded piece of science fiction about a future with humanlike robots.
* Macross Zero is a Macross series (remember Macross Plus?), so giant robots and singing. This particular incarnation has a bit of an environmentalist/anti colonialist bent and is extremely well animated for its time.
* Freedom is a kids-on-big-motorbikes anime (think Akira), actiony and well-animated
* Gundam 0080 is an older giant robot OVA, with an anti-war theme and some pretty good characters.
* Black Rock★Shooter is some middle school drama mixed with some pretty music-video-style fights. Almost like an anime ''Sucker Punch''.


Schedule:
=== Ending Alignment ===
* Norogami 11, Space Battleship Yamato 23, Mekakucity Actors 7, Macross Zero 1, AtL 23, [[ToraDora]] 10
* Norogami 12, Space Battleship Yamato 24, Mekakucity Actors 8, Macross Zero 2, AtL 24, [[ToraDora]] 11
* Space Battleship Yamato 25, Mekakucity Actors 9, Macross Zero 3, AtL 25-26, [[ToraDora]] 12
* Space Battleship Yamato 26, Mekakucity Actors 10, Macross Zero 4, [[ToraDora]] 12, The Garden of Words
* Mekakucity Actors 11-12, Macross Zero 5, [[ToraDora]] 13, 5 cm/s


== Winter 2014 Schedule ==
Ending:
* Noragami
* Sci-Fi: In/Spectre
* Space Battleship Yamato 2199
* General 1: Galactic Heroes
* Samurai Flamenco
* Comedy: Eizouken
* Archer (last 2 episodes, displacing Mekakucity Actors)
* Drama/Romance: Domestic Girlfriend
* Mekakucity Actors
* Allison and Lillia (with an eye towards possible replacement by Mushishi)
* Toradora
* (Also unofficial Magic Knight Rayearth from time to time)


== Autumn 2014 Schedule ==
All running 12 episodes.
* Little Witch Academia (first meeting, displacing Archer)
* Ga-Rei Zero
* Space Battleship Yamato 2199
* Samurai Flamenco
* Archer
* Allison and Lillia
* Twin Angel (filling gap in Archer)
* Chuunibyou demo Koi ga Shitai! (S1 + OVA)
* (Also unofficial Magic Knight Rayearth from time to time)


== New Year's 2014 Bonus Meeting ==
Continuing:
* Magical Girl Lyrical Nanoha The Movie 2nd A`s
* Action: Babylonia - 10 episodes next cour (accounting for episode 0)
* Macross Plus
* General 2/Sports: Chihayfuru - 13 episodes next cour


== Summer 2013 Schedule ==
== Future possibilities ==
* Gatchaman Crowds
=== Shows that we considered schedule-worthy ===
* Attack on Titan
* The Legend of Korra
* The Sunday Without God
** Mixed feelings. Episode 1 was painful, Korra is like another Subaru at the beginning. Fortunately they ease off the "this character is naive due to her upbringing and we need to show it" pretty quickly. Seems like it could have some promise, but the plot development seems very formulaic ("Introduce Heroine. Introduce Teacher. Inevitable heroine/teacher conflict. Introduce allies. Introduce nemesis.") - does it manage to grow beyond this? Also a bit wary of another year-long show.  --maxb
* Fate/Kaleid Liner Prisma☆Ilya
*** Does it ever cease being a fantasy adventure show? No, at least not in the part I've seen. Does it get into more complex/ambiguous territory, develop meaningful longer-term arcs, and go beyond simplistic good vs evil? Yes, absolutely. (And Korra does suffer for her mistakes and start to learn from them - she'll always be headstrong but not to the point of incompetence the way she is in the first few episodes)
* Senki Zesshou Symphogear G: In the Distance, That Day, When the Star Became Music...
* Have some reservations about immediately diving into this right after FMAB but I could be persuaded. -MP
* Simoun
** Have already seen season 1, but would be super enthusiastic for this. - maria
* (Also unofficial Kiddy Grade from time to time)
* Ore Monogatari
** An unconventional romance, with lots of storytelling to do along the way, and some comedy moments. Though the subject matter is completely different, the viewing experience feels a bit like Shirayuki-hime - there is a continuity, but it's very episodic. --maxb
* Akanesasu Shoujo
* Demon Slayer (Kimetsu no Yaiba)
* Kobayashi-san's Dragon Maid 小林さんちのマイドラゴン
** A light-hearted series with an underlying theme of interpersonal relationships improving people's (and dragons') lives. Best last episode that I've seen for a long time. --maxb


== Spring 2013 Schedule ==
=== Shows saved to revisit as backup options if needed ===
* Psycho-Pass
* Attack on Titan
* Zetsuen no Tempest
* Demon King at Work
* Archer
* Simoun
* (Also unofficial Martian Successor Nadesico from time to time)


== New Location ==
* Fate/cooking (Emiya-san chi kyou no gohan)
Flat 31, Rosecrest Court, 344 High Road, London N15 4ET. Still 18:45 on Wednesdays.
** Semi-short, episodes are ~13 minutes each.
** maxb: Very little happens in this show, but it does so in a soothingly fun way, apt to leave a smile on your face.


== Moving House Bonus Meeting ==
=== Proposals which have not been fully evaluated ===
* Magical Girl Lyrical Nanoha The Movie 1st
* The Magnificent Kotobuki
* Voices of a Distant Star
** It may seem like some frivolous fun leaning on aerial combat scenes at first, but it's actually some some fair light sci-fi world building by the time it finishes up, too. --maxb
* Hugtto! PreCure (general) --lmm
** Enormous committment that will likely be pushed aside, but mentioning just in case
** Definitely the best PreCure that I have watched, outdoing HeartCatch, Suite, Yes! 5, Yes! 5 Go Go (I dropped that one). I'd be on board with watching this again. It wasn't perfect (I think they could have used a bit more budget in the middle of the third cour) but it was fun, endearing, and critically managed to avoid over-using the monster-of-the-week formula for most of its content, which is a pitfall many of the earlier PreCures have fallen into to various extents. Given the format of the show, it could actually work to decide to watch 1 cour and then reassess, if people are hesitant to sign up for the whole 49 episode run. --maxb
** Probably have to give up on this one, as no-one spoke up in favour beyond us two :-/
* Fire Force (action) -- AIM
** I watched episode 1 - no strong opinions either way. Needs an action fan to opine. --maxb
* Kaguya-sama: Love is War season 2 (airs from April)
** I think we all liked season 1 -- maxb


== Winter 2013 Schedule ==
See also: [[Animu/OldProposals]]
* Psycho-Pass
* Shinsekai Yori
* Zetsuen no Tempest
* AKB0048
* Archer
* Princess Jellyfish
* (Also unofficial Aquarion EVOL from time to time)
 
== Christmas 2012 Bonus Meeting ==
* Strike Witches the Movie
* Pale Cocoon
 
== Autumn 2012 Schedule ==
* Muv-Luv Alternative: Total Eclipse
* Shinsekai Yori
* Secret of Cerulean Sand
* Archer
* Accel World
* Tonari no Kaibutsu-kun
* DVD-only episodes of Kokoro Connect
* (Also unofficial Grenadier from time to time)
 
== Summer 2012 Schedule ==
* Muv-Luv Alternative: Total Eclipse
* Secret of Cerulean Sand
* Archer
* Accel World
* Space Bros (Dropped)
* Tari Tari
* Kokoro Connect
* (Also unofficial Seirei no Morbito from time to time)
 
== Spring 2012 Schedule ==
* Jormungand
* Fate/Zero (dropped after episode ~20)
* Dantalian no Shoka
* AKB0048
* Natsuiro Kiseki
* Space Bros
* Wandering Son
* (Also unofficial Seirei no Morbito from time to time)
 
== Winter 2012 Schedule (disrupted by Japan trip and change of attendees) ==
* Moretsu Pirates (dropped after ~14 epsiodes)
* Fireball (short)
* Senki Zesshou Symphogear: Meteoroid-falling, Burning, and Disappear, Then...
* Last Exile ~Fam, the Silver Wing~
* Chihayafuru
* Princess Tutu
* Honey & Clover
* (Also unofficial Seirei no Morbito from time to time)
 
== Autumn 2011 Schedule ==
* Fate/Zero
* Horizon in the Middle of Nowhere
* Last Exile ~Fam, the Silver Wing~
* Chihayafuru
* Princess Tutu
* Honey & Clover


== "Squash" ==
=== Special candidates ===
* Read or Die OVA (in accordance with tradition)
* Gundam The Origin (3/6 watched)
* First episode of Fate/Zero
* Gunbuster --lmm
* Garakowa: Restore the World - a 1h film from Winter 2016, pretty, good music, and interesting enough, though did leave me questioning why they handled the pacing the way they did. --maxb
* Gochuumon wa Usagi desu ka?? ~Dear My Sister~ (ご注文はうさぎですか?? ~Dear My Sister~) [~60mins] - More GochiUsa for those who liked the TV series. Feels like a 60min episodes more than a movie. --YYY
* "Blame! Movie" -- AIM
** https://anilist.co/anime/21498/Blame-Movie/
** A group of humans trying to survive in a self-replicating city that is trying to kill them. Action/Sci-Fi.
* Mary and the Witches Flower
** https://anilist.co/anime/97981/Mary-to-Majo-no-Hana/
** AIM: I wanted to see this one when it came out, but missed it.


== Time/Place ==
== Informal planning principles ==
Lmm's (88 Chesterfield Gardens, Finsbury Park), 18:45 on Wednesdays
* None of this is absolute. These are guidelines only and if following them would mean watching bad shows and not watching good shows then we will overrule them
* We watch about 2:30 each week - normally 6 normal-length TV episodes from 6 different shows (watching each show from start to finish at one episode per week)
** If a significant number of attendees will miss one or two meetings (e.g. during holiday periods) we set aside the regular schedule and show "specials" instead.
* We try to group the schedule into "seasons" (i.e. start and finish a group of shows at the same time) to provide some structure and (at least theoretically) to give newcomers a reasonable point at which to join.
** Seasons are long enough to complete a "short" show (i.e. 12 or 13 weeks) and do not necessarily align with calendar seasons
** We aim to start shows when they are still airing, but after enough episodes have aired to reasonably evaluate them (usually three or four)
** Seasons are named on this page after the "anime season" from which shows could have appeared in that season
*** i.e. if we start a season just before spring ends and summer begins (or even after a few summer episodes have aired, but not enough for summer shows to be considered for the schedule), we will call that season "spring"
*** i.e. at any given time we may be up to a season "behind realtime"
* Avoid falling into a rut
** We try to enforce a mix of genres by using "slots"
*** Approximate slots
**** Action and/or general fast-paced
**** Sci-Fi
**** General, faster and/or more serious
**** General or sports, slower and/or more lighthearted
**** Comedy
**** Romance and/or drama
** Slot order is so that the tonal arc of the evening makes some sense
*** This sounds really wishy-washy, but at the same time it genuinely is surprisingly important - we've had meetings where we watched things in the "wrong" order for technical reasons and it didn't go well
** We can skip, reassign or "fudge" a slot if there really are no good shows in that genre that season, but we should be very wary if we find ourselves repeatedly skipping the same slot
** "Current" shows generally take priority over older shows
*** If there are not enough schedule-quality shows then we look to recent shows that we considered schedule-quality but did not make the schedule in a previous season, and/or to "classic" shows
* Try to reach a consensus but also to broaden our horizons
** We largely rely on attendees watching at least the first few episodes of a show and then proposing it for the schedule
** We try to avoid scheduling a show that any attendee strenuously objects to
*** This is not absolute, particularly if there are enough "vetos" to make it difficult to assemble a schedule at all
* We would prefer to air a show that some love and others dislike (though not hate) than one that everyone is "meh" about
** This is not to say that shows have to be controversial or provocative (though at the same time we don't shy away from such shows)
*** There is plenty of space for a well-crafted "safe" show, just not for a mediocre one.
*** Shows that are ambitious will ideally be given slightly more leeway regarding weaknesses in other areas.
**** But only slightly.
** Conversely shows that are content to remain within their genre ("if you want x you know where to find it") will ideally be held to a slightly higher standard.
* We call shows that two or more people supported and no-one strenuously objected to "schedule-worthy" and list them separately below
** Experience suggests that we will most likely air them sooner or later
** This is solely as a matter of practicality; it doesn't imply any firm commitment
* We can and do drop shows partway through, even partway through a season, but only when there is a firm consensus for doing so
** Generally if even one attendee was still enjoying a given show we would not drop it
* The host retains an absolute veto over anything they find genuinely objectionable
** i.e. not just shows I don't like
** [[Animu/HostVetoes]]


== History ==
[[Animu/History]]

Latest revision as of 13:28, 11 May 2021

Being a place for the planning of communal anime viewing.


Spring 2020 Schedule

One day we might even be able to resume meetings after COVID-19 and actually watch it...

  • Fate/Grand Order Absolute Demonic Front: Babylonia
  • In/Spectre (Kyokou Suiri)
  • Legend of the Galactic Heroes: Die Neue These Second
  • Chihayafuru
  • Hands off the Motion Picture Club! (Eizouken ni wa Te wo Dasu na!)
  • Domestic Girlfriend

Ending Alignment

Ending:

  • Sci-Fi: In/Spectre
  • General 1: Galactic Heroes
  • Comedy: Eizouken
  • Drama/Romance: Domestic Girlfriend

All running 12 episodes.

Continuing:

  • Action: Babylonia - 10 episodes next cour (accounting for episode 0)
  • General 2/Sports: Chihayfuru - 13 episodes next cour

Future possibilities

Shows that we considered schedule-worthy

  • The Legend of Korra
    • Mixed feelings. Episode 1 was painful, Korra is like another Subaru at the beginning. Fortunately they ease off the "this character is naive due to her upbringing and we need to show it" pretty quickly. Seems like it could have some promise, but the plot development seems very formulaic ("Introduce Heroine. Introduce Teacher. Inevitable heroine/teacher conflict. Introduce allies. Introduce nemesis.") - does it manage to grow beyond this? Also a bit wary of another year-long show. --maxb
      • Does it ever cease being a fantasy adventure show? No, at least not in the part I've seen. Does it get into more complex/ambiguous territory, develop meaningful longer-term arcs, and go beyond simplistic good vs evil? Yes, absolutely. (And Korra does suffer for her mistakes and start to learn from them - she'll always be headstrong but not to the point of incompetence the way she is in the first few episodes)
  • Have some reservations about immediately diving into this right after FMAB but I could be persuaded. -MP
    • Have already seen season 1, but would be super enthusiastic for this. - maria
  • Ore Monogatari
    • An unconventional romance, with lots of storytelling to do along the way, and some comedy moments. Though the subject matter is completely different, the viewing experience feels a bit like Shirayuki-hime - there is a continuity, but it's very episodic. --maxb
  • Akanesasu Shoujo
  • Demon Slayer (Kimetsu no Yaiba)
  • Kobayashi-san's Dragon Maid 小林さんちのマイドラゴン
    • A light-hearted series with an underlying theme of interpersonal relationships improving people's (and dragons') lives. Best last episode that I've seen for a long time. --maxb

Shows saved to revisit as backup options if needed

  • Fate/cooking (Emiya-san chi kyou no gohan)
    • Semi-short, episodes are ~13 minutes each.
    • maxb: Very little happens in this show, but it does so in a soothingly fun way, apt to leave a smile on your face.

Proposals which have not been fully evaluated

  • The Magnificent Kotobuki
    • It may seem like some frivolous fun leaning on aerial combat scenes at first, but it's actually some some fair light sci-fi world building by the time it finishes up, too. --maxb
  • Hugtto! PreCure (general) --lmm
    • Enormous committment that will likely be pushed aside, but mentioning just in case
    • Definitely the best PreCure that I have watched, outdoing HeartCatch, Suite, Yes! 5, Yes! 5 Go Go (I dropped that one). I'd be on board with watching this again. It wasn't perfect (I think they could have used a bit more budget in the middle of the third cour) but it was fun, endearing, and critically managed to avoid over-using the monster-of-the-week formula for most of its content, which is a pitfall many of the earlier PreCures have fallen into to various extents. Given the format of the show, it could actually work to decide to watch 1 cour and then reassess, if people are hesitant to sign up for the whole 49 episode run. --maxb
    • Probably have to give up on this one, as no-one spoke up in favour beyond us two :-/
  • Fire Force (action) -- AIM
    • I watched episode 1 - no strong opinions either way. Needs an action fan to opine. --maxb
  • Kaguya-sama: Love is War season 2 (airs from April)
    • I think we all liked season 1 -- maxb

See also: Animu/OldProposals

Special candidates

  • Gundam The Origin (3/6 watched)
  • Gunbuster --lmm
  • Garakowa: Restore the World - a 1h film from Winter 2016, pretty, good music, and interesting enough, though did leave me questioning why they handled the pacing the way they did. --maxb
  • Gochuumon wa Usagi desu ka?? ~Dear My Sister~ (ご注文はうさぎですか?? ~Dear My Sister~) [~60mins] - More GochiUsa for those who liked the TV series. Feels like a 60min episodes more than a movie. --YYY
  • "Blame! Movie" -- AIM
  • Mary and the Witches Flower

Informal planning principles

  • None of this is absolute. These are guidelines only and if following them would mean watching bad shows and not watching good shows then we will overrule them
  • We watch about 2:30 each week - normally 6 normal-length TV episodes from 6 different shows (watching each show from start to finish at one episode per week)
    • If a significant number of attendees will miss one or two meetings (e.g. during holiday periods) we set aside the regular schedule and show "specials" instead.
  • We try to group the schedule into "seasons" (i.e. start and finish a group of shows at the same time) to provide some structure and (at least theoretically) to give newcomers a reasonable point at which to join.
    • Seasons are long enough to complete a "short" show (i.e. 12 or 13 weeks) and do not necessarily align with calendar seasons
    • We aim to start shows when they are still airing, but after enough episodes have aired to reasonably evaluate them (usually three or four)
    • Seasons are named on this page after the "anime season" from which shows could have appeared in that season
      • i.e. if we start a season just before spring ends and summer begins (or even after a few summer episodes have aired, but not enough for summer shows to be considered for the schedule), we will call that season "spring"
      • i.e. at any given time we may be up to a season "behind realtime"
  • Avoid falling into a rut
    • We try to enforce a mix of genres by using "slots"
      • Approximate slots
        • Action and/or general fast-paced
        • Sci-Fi
        • General, faster and/or more serious
        • General or sports, slower and/or more lighthearted
        • Comedy
        • Romance and/or drama
    • Slot order is so that the tonal arc of the evening makes some sense
      • This sounds really wishy-washy, but at the same time it genuinely is surprisingly important - we've had meetings where we watched things in the "wrong" order for technical reasons and it didn't go well
    • We can skip, reassign or "fudge" a slot if there really are no good shows in that genre that season, but we should be very wary if we find ourselves repeatedly skipping the same slot
    • "Current" shows generally take priority over older shows
      • If there are not enough schedule-quality shows then we look to recent shows that we considered schedule-quality but did not make the schedule in a previous season, and/or to "classic" shows
  • Try to reach a consensus but also to broaden our horizons
    • We largely rely on attendees watching at least the first few episodes of a show and then proposing it for the schedule
    • We try to avoid scheduling a show that any attendee strenuously objects to
      • This is not absolute, particularly if there are enough "vetos" to make it difficult to assemble a schedule at all
  • We would prefer to air a show that some love and others dislike (though not hate) than one that everyone is "meh" about
    • This is not to say that shows have to be controversial or provocative (though at the same time we don't shy away from such shows)
      • There is plenty of space for a well-crafted "safe" show, just not for a mediocre one.
      • Shows that are ambitious will ideally be given slightly more leeway regarding weaknesses in other areas.
        • But only slightly.
    • Conversely shows that are content to remain within their genre ("if you want x you know where to find it") will ideally be held to a slightly higher standard.
  • We call shows that two or more people supported and no-one strenuously objected to "schedule-worthy" and list them separately below
    • Experience suggests that we will most likely air them sooner or later
    • This is solely as a matter of practicality; it doesn't imply any firm commitment
  • We can and do drop shows partway through, even partway through a season, but only when there is a firm consensus for doing so
    • Generally if even one attendee was still enjoying a given show we would not drop it
  • The host retains an absolute veto over anything they find genuinely objectionable

History

Animu/History