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Being a place for the planning of communal anime viewing.
Being a place for the planning of communal anime viewing. Seasons are named after the relevant anime season; at any given time we may be up to a season "behind" realtime.


== Future ==


Spring 2016 planning:
* Full Metal Alchemist: Brotherhood
* The Perfect Insider
* Mobile Suit Gundam: Iron-Blooded Orphans
* Erased (Boku Dake ga Inai Machi)
* Shimoneta
* Snow White with the Red Hair


Notes thereon:
== Spring 2020 Schedule ==
* Ore Monogatari (25)?
** I think this has merit (currently have watched 17/25 episodes), though it is the slowish/sentimental sort, so would be improved by careful slot planning. It's nominally romance I suppose, but I'd say "storytelling / character interaction" is a better description of its primary feel. --maxb


Other possible things:
One day we might even be able to resume meetings after COVID-19 and actually watch it...
* Shouwa Genroku Rakugo Shinjuu
** I've only seen the 1st (double-length) episode so far, but I'm already considering it schedule-worthy --maxb
** Now five episodes in, I still rate this very highly. --maxb
* Nodame Cantabile (23+1,11+1,11+1)
* JoJo
* Gundam Unicorn (7) (really awkward to fit in a schedule, but I've heard so much good about it)
* Chihayafuru S2
** How many of us have seen S1? I support Chihayafuru as a great show, but feel that people watching S2 without having seen S1 would be missing out on a lot. --maxb
* Barakamon (12)
** Seems promising, based on reading a review. May even be our solution to "so what do we do with slot 5 next season". --maxb
* GATE (24)
** The pacing of the initial few episodes was a bit slow. However, it really got enjoyable after that, and as we move into the second cour, it's really showing promise. Also, intrigue. Explosions. Dragons. The most hilarious military character ever. I think it's a candidate. --maxb
** I still believe this to be a good series and a genuine schedule contender, but given the serious lack of interest whenever I've brought this up IRL, I'm bowing to the seeming inevitability and bumping this down to the 'unlikely' section --maxb


Special candidates:
* Fate/Grand Order Absolute Demonic Front: Babylonia
* Blood Blockade Battlefront last episode
* In/Spectre (Kyokou Suiri)
* Gunbuster
* Legend of the Galactic Heroes: Die Neue These Second
* Girls und Panzer the film (after we've watched the series, assuming it's sufficiently well liked)
* Chihayafuru
* Garakowa: Restore the World - a 1h film from Winter 2016, pretty, good music, and interesting enough, though did leave me questioning why they handled the pacing the way they did.
* Hands off the Motion Picture Club! (Eizouken ni wa Te wo Dasu na!)
 
* Domestic Girlfriend
== Winter 2016 Schedule ==
 
* Full Metal Alchemist: Brotherhood
* Planetes
* Mobile Suit Gundam: Iron-Blooded Orphans
* Fate/Zero
* Girls und Panzer
* Haibane Renmei
 
== New Year 2016 Special ==
* Shirobako Special: 3rd Girls Fighter Wing
* Short Peace
 
== Advent 2015 Special ==
* Shirobako Special: Exodus
* Royal Space Force: The Wings of Honneamise
 
== Halloween 2015 Specials ==
* Expelled from Paradise 楽園追放
* Little Witch Academia 2
* Psycho-Pass Movie
 
== Summer 2015 Schedule ==
 
* Full Metal Alchemist: Brotherhood
* Planetes
* Fate/Zero
* Gakkou Gurashi
* Shirobako
* Hibike Euphonium
 
== Emergency Holographic Spring 2015 Meeting ==
 
* Puella Magi Madoka☆Magica (fancut)
* Battle Programmer Shirase (partial)
 
== Spring 2015 Schedule ==
 
* Blood Blockade Battlefront
* Knights of Sidonia
* Unlimited Blade Works
* Fireball
* Shirobako
* Kyousougiga
* Your Lie in April
* Madoka Rebellion (final meeting bonus)
 
== Winter 2015 Schedule ==
* Rolling☆Girls
* Unlimited Blade Works
* Parasyte
* Yatterman of the Night
* Archer
* Your Lie in April
 
== End of Autumn ==
* Bahamut 12, Parasyte 12, Mushishi 25-26, Amagami 12-13
 
== New Year 2015 Bonus Meeting ==
* Macross Frontier: The False Diva
* Macross Frontier: The Wings of Goodbye
 
== Autumn 2014 Schedule ==
* Shingeki no Bahamut
* Psycho-Pass S2
* Parasyte
* Nobunaga Concerto
* Mushishi
* Amagami Brilliant Park
 
== Start of Autumn 2014 Bonus Meeting ==
 
* Time of Eve
* Redline
 
== Summer 2014 Schedule ==
* Akuma no Riddle
* Knights of Sidonia
* Katanagatari (double length)
* Mushishi
* [[ToraDora]]
 
== End of Winter 2014 Specials ==
 
* The Garden of Words
* 5 Centimeters per Second
 
== Winter 2014 Schedule ==
* Noragami
* Space Battleship Yamato 2199
* Samurai Flamenco
* Macross Zero (replacing Samurai Flamenco)
* Archer (last 2 episodes, displacing Mekakucity Actors)
* Mekakucity Actors
* Allison to Lillia
* Toradora
* (Also unofficial Magic Knight Rayearth from time to time)
 
== Autumn 2014 Schedule ==
* Little Witch Academia (first meeting, displacing Archer)
* Ga-Rei Zero
* Space Battleship Yamato 2199
* Samurai Flamenco
* Archer
* Allison and Lillia
* Twin Angel (filling gap in Archer)
* Chuunibyou demo Koi ga Shitai! (S1 + OVA)
* (Also unofficial Magic Knight Rayearth from time to time)
 
== New Year's 2014 Bonus Meeting ==
* Magical Girl Lyrical Nanoha The Movie 2nd A`s
* Macross Plus


== Summer 2013 Schedule ==
=== Ending Alignment ===
* Gatchaman Crowds
* Attack on Titan
* The Sunday Without God
* Fate/Kaleid Liner Prisma☆Ilya
* Senki Zesshou Symphogear G: In the Distance, That Day, When the Star Became Music...
* Simoun
* (Also unofficial Kiddy Grade from time to time)


== Spring 2013 Schedule ==
Ending:
* Psycho-Pass
* Sci-Fi: In/Spectre
* Attack on Titan
* General 1: Galactic Heroes
* Zetsuen no Tempest
* Comedy: Eizouken
* Demon King at Work
* Drama/Romance: Domestic Girlfriend
* Archer
* Simoun
* (Also unofficial Martian Successor Nadesico from time to time)


== New Location ==
All running 12 episodes.
Flat 31, Rosecrest Court, 344 High Road, London N15 4ET. Still 18:45 on Wednesdays.


== Moving House 2013 Bonus Meeting ==
Continuing:
* Magical Girl Lyrical Nanoha The Movie 1st
* Action: Babylonia - 10 episodes next cour (accounting for episode 0)
* Voices of a Distant Star
* General 2/Sports: Chihayfuru - 13 episodes next cour


== Winter 2013 Schedule ==
== Future possibilities ==
* Psycho-Pass
=== Shows that we considered schedule-worthy ===
* Shinsekai Yori
* The Legend of Korra
* Zetsuen no Tempest
** Mixed feelings. Episode 1 was painful, Korra is like another Subaru at the beginning. Fortunately they ease off the "this character is naive due to her upbringing and we need to show it" pretty quickly. Seems like it could have some promise, but the plot development seems very formulaic ("Introduce Heroine. Introduce Teacher. Inevitable heroine/teacher conflict. Introduce allies. Introduce nemesis.") - does it manage to grow beyond this? Also a bit wary of another year-long show.  --maxb
* AKB0048
*** Does it ever cease being a fantasy adventure show? No, at least not in the part I've seen. Does it get into more complex/ambiguous territory, develop meaningful longer-term arcs, and go beyond simplistic good vs evil? Yes, absolutely. (And Korra does suffer for her mistakes and start to learn from them - she'll always be headstrong but not to the point of incompetence the way she is in the first few episodes)
* Archer
* Have some reservations about immediately diving into this right after FMAB but I could be persuaded. -MP
* Princess Jellyfish
** Have already seen season 1, but would be super enthusiastic for this. - maria
* (Also unofficial Aquarion EVOL from time to time)
* Ore Monogatari
** An unconventional romance, with lots of storytelling to do along the way, and some comedy moments. Though the subject matter is completely different, the viewing experience feels a bit like Shirayuki-hime - there is a continuity, but it's very episodic. --maxb
* Akanesasu Shoujo
* Demon Slayer (Kimetsu no Yaiba)
* Kobayashi-san's Dragon Maid 小林さんちのマイドラゴン
** A light-hearted series with an underlying theme of interpersonal relationships improving people's (and dragons') lives. Best last episode that I've seen for a long time. --maxb


== Christmas 2012 Bonus Meeting ==
=== Shows saved to revisit as backup options if needed ===
* Strike Witches the Movie
* Pale Cocoon


== Autumn 2012 Schedule ==
* Fate/cooking (Emiya-san chi kyou no gohan)
* Muv-Luv Alternative: Total Eclipse
** Semi-short, episodes are ~13 minutes each.
* Shinsekai Yori
** maxb: Very little happens in this show, but it does so in a soothingly fun way, apt to leave a smile on your face.
* Secret of Cerulean Sand
* Archer
* Accel World
* Tonari no Kaibutsu-kun
* DVD-only episodes of Kokoro Connect
* (Also unofficial Grenadier from time to time)


== Summer 2012 Schedule ==
=== Proposals which have not been fully evaluated ===
* Muv-Luv Alternative: Total Eclipse
* The Magnificent Kotobuki
* Secret of Cerulean Sand
** It may seem like some frivolous fun leaning on aerial combat scenes at first, but it's actually some some fair light sci-fi world building by the time it finishes up, too. --maxb
* Archer
* Hugtto! PreCure (general) --lmm
* Accel World
** Enormous committment that will likely be pushed aside, but mentioning just in case
* Space Bros (dropped after episode ~12, displacing Tari Tari)
** Definitely the best PreCure that I have watched, outdoing HeartCatch, Suite, Yes! 5, Yes! 5 Go Go (I dropped that one). I'd be on board with watching this again. It wasn't perfect (I think they could have used a bit more budget in the middle of the third cour) but it was fun, endearing, and critically managed to avoid over-using the monster-of-the-week formula for most of its content, which is a pitfall many of the earlier PreCures have fallen into to various extents. Given the format of the show, it could actually work to decide to watch 1 cour and then reassess, if people are hesitant to sign up for the whole 49 episode run. --maxb
* Tari Tari
** Probably have to give up on this one, as no-one spoke up in favour beyond us two :-/
* Kokoro Connect
* Fire Force (action) -- AIM
* (Also unofficial Seirei no Morbito from time to time)
** I watched episode 1 - no strong opinions either way. Needs an action fan to opine. --maxb
* Kaguya-sama: Love is War season 2 (airs from April)
** I think we all liked season 1 -- maxb


== Spring 2012 Schedule ==
See also: [[Animu/OldProposals]]
* Jormungand
* Dantalian no Shoka
* AKB0048
* Natsuiro Kiseki
* Space Bros
* Wandering Son
* (Also unofficial Seirei no Morbito from time to time)
 
== Winter 2012 Schedule (disrupted by Japan trip and change of attendees) ==
* Moretsu Pirates (dropped after epsiode ~14)
* Fate/Zero (dropped after episode ~20)
* Fireball (short)
* Senki Zesshou Symphogear: Meteoroid-falling, Burning, and Disappear, Then...
* Last Exile ~Fam, the Silver Wing~
* Chihayafuru
* Princess Tutu
* Honey & Clover
* (Also unofficial Seirei no Morbito from time to time)
 
== Autumn 2011 Schedule ==
* Fate/Zero
* Horizon in the Middle of Nowhere
* Last Exile ~Fam, the Silver Wing~
* Chihayafuru
* Princess Tutu
* Honey & Clover


== "Squash" 2011 ==
=== Special candidates ===
* Read or Die OVA (in accordance with tradition)
* Gundam The Origin (3/6 watched)
* First episode of Fate/Zero
* Gunbuster --lmm
* Garakowa: Restore the World - a 1h film from Winter 2016, pretty, good music, and interesting enough, though did leave me questioning why they handled the pacing the way they did. --maxb
* Gochuumon wa Usagi desu ka?? ~Dear My Sister~ (ご注文はうさぎですか?? ~Dear My Sister~) [~60mins] - More GochiUsa for those who liked the TV series. Feels like a 60min episodes more than a movie. --YYY
* "Blame! Movie" -- AIM
** https://anilist.co/anime/21498/Blame-Movie/
** A group of humans trying to survive in a self-replicating city that is trying to kill them. Action/Sci-Fi.
* Mary and the Witches Flower
** https://anilist.co/anime/97981/Mary-to-Majo-no-Hana/
** AIM: I wanted to see this one when it came out, but missed it.


== Time/Place ==
== Informal planning principles ==
Lmm's (88 Chesterfield Gardens, Finsbury Park), 18:45 on Wednesdays
* None of this is absolute. These are guidelines only and if following them would mean watching bad shows and not watching good shows then we will overrule them
* We watch about 2:30 each week - normally 6 normal-length TV episodes from 6 different shows (watching each show from start to finish at one episode per week)
** If a significant number of attendees will miss one or two meetings (e.g. during holiday periods) we set aside the regular schedule and show "specials" instead.
* We try to group the schedule into "seasons" (i.e. start and finish a group of shows at the same time) to provide some structure and (at least theoretically) to give newcomers a reasonable point at which to join.
** Seasons are long enough to complete a "short" show (i.e. 12 or 13 weeks) and do not necessarily align with calendar seasons
** We aim to start shows when they are still airing, but after enough episodes have aired to reasonably evaluate them (usually three or four)
** Seasons are named on this page after the "anime season" from which shows could have appeared in that season
*** i.e. if we start a season just before spring ends and summer begins (or even after a few summer episodes have aired, but not enough for summer shows to be considered for the schedule), we will call that season "spring"
*** i.e. at any given time we may be up to a season "behind realtime"
* Avoid falling into a rut
** We try to enforce a mix of genres by using "slots"
*** Approximate slots
**** Action and/or general fast-paced
**** Sci-Fi
**** General, faster and/or more serious
**** General or sports, slower and/or more lighthearted
**** Comedy
**** Romance and/or drama
** Slot order is so that the tonal arc of the evening makes some sense
*** This sounds really wishy-washy, but at the same time it genuinely is surprisingly important - we've had meetings where we watched things in the "wrong" order for technical reasons and it didn't go well
** We can skip, reassign or "fudge" a slot if there really are no good shows in that genre that season, but we should be very wary if we find ourselves repeatedly skipping the same slot
** "Current" shows generally take priority over older shows
*** If there are not enough schedule-quality shows then we look to recent shows that we considered schedule-quality but did not make the schedule in a previous season, and/or to "classic" shows
* Try to reach a consensus but also to broaden our horizons
** We largely rely on attendees watching at least the first few episodes of a show and then proposing it for the schedule
** We try to avoid scheduling a show that any attendee strenuously objects to
*** This is not absolute, particularly if there are enough "vetos" to make it difficult to assemble a schedule at all
* We would prefer to air a show that some love and others dislike (though not hate) than one that everyone is "meh" about
** This is not to say that shows have to be controversial or provocative (though at the same time we don't shy away from such shows)
*** There is plenty of space for a well-crafted "safe" show, just not for a mediocre one.
*** Shows that are ambitious will ideally be given slightly more leeway regarding weaknesses in other areas.
**** But only slightly.
** Conversely shows that are content to remain within their genre ("if you want x you know where to find it") will ideally be held to a slightly higher standard.
* We call shows that two or more people supported and no-one strenuously objected to "schedule-worthy" and list them separately below
** Experience suggests that we will most likely air them sooner or later
** This is solely as a matter of practicality; it doesn't imply any firm commitment
* We can and do drop shows partway through, even partway through a season, but only when there is a firm consensus for doing so
** Generally if even one attendee was still enjoying a given show we would not drop it
* The host retains an absolute veto over anything they find genuinely objectionable
** i.e. not just shows I don't like
** [[Animu/HostVetoes]]


== History ==
[[Animu/History]]

Latest revision as of 13:28, 11 May 2021

Being a place for the planning of communal anime viewing.


Spring 2020 Schedule

One day we might even be able to resume meetings after COVID-19 and actually watch it...

  • Fate/Grand Order Absolute Demonic Front: Babylonia
  • In/Spectre (Kyokou Suiri)
  • Legend of the Galactic Heroes: Die Neue These Second
  • Chihayafuru
  • Hands off the Motion Picture Club! (Eizouken ni wa Te wo Dasu na!)
  • Domestic Girlfriend

Ending Alignment

Ending:

  • Sci-Fi: In/Spectre
  • General 1: Galactic Heroes
  • Comedy: Eizouken
  • Drama/Romance: Domestic Girlfriend

All running 12 episodes.

Continuing:

  • Action: Babylonia - 10 episodes next cour (accounting for episode 0)
  • General 2/Sports: Chihayfuru - 13 episodes next cour

Future possibilities

Shows that we considered schedule-worthy

  • The Legend of Korra
    • Mixed feelings. Episode 1 was painful, Korra is like another Subaru at the beginning. Fortunately they ease off the "this character is naive due to her upbringing and we need to show it" pretty quickly. Seems like it could have some promise, but the plot development seems very formulaic ("Introduce Heroine. Introduce Teacher. Inevitable heroine/teacher conflict. Introduce allies. Introduce nemesis.") - does it manage to grow beyond this? Also a bit wary of another year-long show. --maxb
      • Does it ever cease being a fantasy adventure show? No, at least not in the part I've seen. Does it get into more complex/ambiguous territory, develop meaningful longer-term arcs, and go beyond simplistic good vs evil? Yes, absolutely. (And Korra does suffer for her mistakes and start to learn from them - she'll always be headstrong but not to the point of incompetence the way she is in the first few episodes)
  • Have some reservations about immediately diving into this right after FMAB but I could be persuaded. -MP
    • Have already seen season 1, but would be super enthusiastic for this. - maria
  • Ore Monogatari
    • An unconventional romance, with lots of storytelling to do along the way, and some comedy moments. Though the subject matter is completely different, the viewing experience feels a bit like Shirayuki-hime - there is a continuity, but it's very episodic. --maxb
  • Akanesasu Shoujo
  • Demon Slayer (Kimetsu no Yaiba)
  • Kobayashi-san's Dragon Maid 小林さんちのマイドラゴン
    • A light-hearted series with an underlying theme of interpersonal relationships improving people's (and dragons') lives. Best last episode that I've seen for a long time. --maxb

Shows saved to revisit as backup options if needed

  • Fate/cooking (Emiya-san chi kyou no gohan)
    • Semi-short, episodes are ~13 minutes each.
    • maxb: Very little happens in this show, but it does so in a soothingly fun way, apt to leave a smile on your face.

Proposals which have not been fully evaluated

  • The Magnificent Kotobuki
    • It may seem like some frivolous fun leaning on aerial combat scenes at first, but it's actually some some fair light sci-fi world building by the time it finishes up, too. --maxb
  • Hugtto! PreCure (general) --lmm
    • Enormous committment that will likely be pushed aside, but mentioning just in case
    • Definitely the best PreCure that I have watched, outdoing HeartCatch, Suite, Yes! 5, Yes! 5 Go Go (I dropped that one). I'd be on board with watching this again. It wasn't perfect (I think they could have used a bit more budget in the middle of the third cour) but it was fun, endearing, and critically managed to avoid over-using the monster-of-the-week formula for most of its content, which is a pitfall many of the earlier PreCures have fallen into to various extents. Given the format of the show, it could actually work to decide to watch 1 cour and then reassess, if people are hesitant to sign up for the whole 49 episode run. --maxb
    • Probably have to give up on this one, as no-one spoke up in favour beyond us two :-/
  • Fire Force (action) -- AIM
    • I watched episode 1 - no strong opinions either way. Needs an action fan to opine. --maxb
  • Kaguya-sama: Love is War season 2 (airs from April)
    • I think we all liked season 1 -- maxb

See also: Animu/OldProposals

Special candidates

  • Gundam The Origin (3/6 watched)
  • Gunbuster --lmm
  • Garakowa: Restore the World - a 1h film from Winter 2016, pretty, good music, and interesting enough, though did leave me questioning why they handled the pacing the way they did. --maxb
  • Gochuumon wa Usagi desu ka?? ~Dear My Sister~ (ご注文はうさぎですか?? ~Dear My Sister~) [~60mins] - More GochiUsa for those who liked the TV series. Feels like a 60min episodes more than a movie. --YYY
  • "Blame! Movie" -- AIM
  • Mary and the Witches Flower

Informal planning principles

  • None of this is absolute. These are guidelines only and if following them would mean watching bad shows and not watching good shows then we will overrule them
  • We watch about 2:30 each week - normally 6 normal-length TV episodes from 6 different shows (watching each show from start to finish at one episode per week)
    • If a significant number of attendees will miss one or two meetings (e.g. during holiday periods) we set aside the regular schedule and show "specials" instead.
  • We try to group the schedule into "seasons" (i.e. start and finish a group of shows at the same time) to provide some structure and (at least theoretically) to give newcomers a reasonable point at which to join.
    • Seasons are long enough to complete a "short" show (i.e. 12 or 13 weeks) and do not necessarily align with calendar seasons
    • We aim to start shows when they are still airing, but after enough episodes have aired to reasonably evaluate them (usually three or four)
    • Seasons are named on this page after the "anime season" from which shows could have appeared in that season
      • i.e. if we start a season just before spring ends and summer begins (or even after a few summer episodes have aired, but not enough for summer shows to be considered for the schedule), we will call that season "spring"
      • i.e. at any given time we may be up to a season "behind realtime"
  • Avoid falling into a rut
    • We try to enforce a mix of genres by using "slots"
      • Approximate slots
        • Action and/or general fast-paced
        • Sci-Fi
        • General, faster and/or more serious
        • General or sports, slower and/or more lighthearted
        • Comedy
        • Romance and/or drama
    • Slot order is so that the tonal arc of the evening makes some sense
      • This sounds really wishy-washy, but at the same time it genuinely is surprisingly important - we've had meetings where we watched things in the "wrong" order for technical reasons and it didn't go well
    • We can skip, reassign or "fudge" a slot if there really are no good shows in that genre that season, but we should be very wary if we find ourselves repeatedly skipping the same slot
    • "Current" shows generally take priority over older shows
      • If there are not enough schedule-quality shows then we look to recent shows that we considered schedule-quality but did not make the schedule in a previous season, and/or to "classic" shows
  • Try to reach a consensus but also to broaden our horizons
    • We largely rely on attendees watching at least the first few episodes of a show and then proposing it for the schedule
    • We try to avoid scheduling a show that any attendee strenuously objects to
      • This is not absolute, particularly if there are enough "vetos" to make it difficult to assemble a schedule at all
  • We would prefer to air a show that some love and others dislike (though not hate) than one that everyone is "meh" about
    • This is not to say that shows have to be controversial or provocative (though at the same time we don't shy away from such shows)
      • There is plenty of space for a well-crafted "safe" show, just not for a mediocre one.
      • Shows that are ambitious will ideally be given slightly more leeway regarding weaknesses in other areas.
        • But only slightly.
    • Conversely shows that are content to remain within their genre ("if you want x you know where to find it") will ideally be held to a slightly higher standard.
  • We call shows that two or more people supported and no-one strenuously objected to "schedule-worthy" and list them separately below
    • Experience suggests that we will most likely air them sooner or later
    • This is solely as a matter of practicality; it doesn't imply any firm commitment
  • We can and do drop shows partway through, even partway through a season, but only when there is a firm consensus for doing so
    • Generally if even one attendee was still enjoying a given show we would not drop it
  • The host retains an absolute veto over anything they find genuinely objectionable

History

Animu/History