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== Autumn 2017 Planning ==
== Spring 2020 Schedule ==
* Action: Kekkai Sensen & Beyond (?)
* Sci-fi: ???
* General 1: Children of the Wales / クジラの子らは砂上に歌う (?)
* General 2: ???
* Comedy: ???
* Drama: March comes in like a Lion S2


Other ideas discussed:
One day we might even be able to resume meetings after COVID-19 and actually watch it...
* Seiren - セイレン
* Ancient Magus' Bride - Mahoutsukai no Yome - 魔法使いの嫁
* Houseki no Kuni - 宝石の国 - Land of the Lustrous
* Urahara
* Made in Abyss
* Girls' Last Tour - 少女終末旅行 - Shoujo Shuumatsu Ryokou


== End of Summer Plan ==
* Fate/Grand Order Absolute Demonic Front: Babylonia
(I think this is what was inferred, though we didn't discuss in detail)
* In/Spectre (Kyokou Suiri)
* Legend of the Galactic Heroes: Die Neue These Second
* Chihayafuru
* Hands off the Motion Picture Club! (Eizouken ni wa Te wo Dasu na!)
* Domestic Girlfriend


* Nov 29th: No "March comes in like a Lion", double up something which has 4 episodes to go (ID-0, Princess Principal)
=== Ending Alignment ===
* Dec 13th: Start next season of March, final episode of Bahamut
* Dec 20th: Final episodes of slot 2-5, double up whichever wasn't doubled up two weeks ago


(Meaning slots 1-5 start simultaneously in the new year, running alongside 20 remaining episodes of March S2)
Ending:
* Sci-Fi: In/Spectre
* General 1: Galactic Heroes
* Comedy: Eizouken
* Drama/Romance: Domestic Girlfriend
 
All running 12 episodes.
 
Continuing:
* Action: Babylonia - 10 episodes next cour (accounting for episode 0)
* General 2/Sports: Chihayfuru - 13 episodes next cour
 
== Future possibilities ==
=== Shows that we considered schedule-worthy ===
* The Legend of Korra
** Mixed feelings. Episode 1 was painful, Korra is like another Subaru at the beginning. Fortunately they ease off the "this character is naive due to her upbringing and we need to show it" pretty quickly. Seems like it could have some promise, but the plot development seems very formulaic ("Introduce Heroine. Introduce Teacher. Inevitable heroine/teacher conflict. Introduce allies. Introduce nemesis.") - does it manage to grow beyond this? Also a bit wary of another year-long show.  --maxb
*** Does it ever cease being a fantasy adventure show? No, at least not in the part I've seen. Does it get into more complex/ambiguous territory, develop meaningful longer-term arcs, and go beyond simplistic good vs evil? Yes, absolutely. (And Korra does suffer for her mistakes and start to learn from them - she'll always be headstrong but not to the point of incompetence the way she is in the first few episodes)
* Have some reservations about immediately diving into this right after FMAB but I could be persuaded. -MP
** Have already seen season 1, but would be super enthusiastic for this. - maria
* Ore Monogatari
** An unconventional romance, with lots of storytelling to do along the way, and some comedy moments. Though the subject matter is completely different, the viewing experience feels a bit like Shirayuki-hime - there is a continuity, but it's very episodic. --maxb
* Akanesasu Shoujo
* Demon Slayer (Kimetsu no Yaiba)
* Kobayashi-san's Dragon Maid 小林さんちのマイドラゴン
** A light-hearted series with an underlying theme of interpersonal relationships improving people's (and dragons') lives. Best last episode that I've seen for a long time. --maxb
 
=== Shows saved to revisit as backup options if needed ===
 
* Fate/cooking (Emiya-san chi kyou no gohan)
** Semi-short, episodes are ~13 minutes each.
** maxb: Very little happens in this show, but it does so in a soothingly fun way, apt to leave a smile on your face.
 
=== Proposals which have not been fully evaluated ===
* The Magnificent Kotobuki
** It may seem like some frivolous fun leaning on aerial combat scenes at first, but it's actually some some fair light sci-fi world building by the time it finishes up, too. --maxb
* Hugtto! PreCure (general) --lmm
** Enormous committment that will likely be pushed aside, but mentioning just in case
** Definitely the best PreCure that I have watched, outdoing HeartCatch, Suite, Yes! 5, Yes! 5 Go Go (I dropped that one). I'd be on board with watching this again. It wasn't perfect (I think they could have used a bit more budget in the middle of the third cour) but it was fun, endearing, and critically managed to avoid over-using the monster-of-the-week formula for most of its content, which is a pitfall many of the earlier PreCures have fallen into to various extents. Given the format of the show, it could actually work to decide to watch 1 cour and then reassess, if people are hesitant to sign up for the whole 49 episode run. --maxb
** Probably have to give up on this one, as no-one spoke up in favour beyond us two :-/
* Fire Force (action) -- AIM
** I watched episode 1 - no strong opinions either way. Needs an action fan to opine. --maxb
* Kaguya-sama: Love is War season 2 (airs from April)
** I think we all liked season 1 -- maxb
 
See also: [[Animu/OldProposals]]
 
=== Special candidates ===
* Gundam The Origin (3/6 watched)
* Gunbuster --lmm
* Garakowa: Restore the World - a 1h film from Winter 2016, pretty, good music, and interesting enough, though did leave me questioning why they handled the pacing the way they did. --maxb
* Gochuumon wa Usagi desu ka?? ~Dear My Sister~ (ご注文はうさぎですか?? ~Dear My Sister~) [~60mins] - More GochiUsa for those who liked the TV series. Feels like a 60min episodes more than a movie. --YYY
* "Blame! Movie" -- AIM
** https://anilist.co/anime/21498/Blame-Movie/
** A group of humans trying to survive in a self-replicating city that is trying to kill them. Action/Sci-Fi.
* Mary and the Witches Flower
** https://anilist.co/anime/97981/Mary-to-Majo-no-Hana/
** AIM: I wanted to see this one when it came out, but missed it.


== Informal planning principles ==
== Informal planning principles ==
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* The host retains an absolute veto over anything they find genuinely objectionable
* The host retains an absolute veto over anything they find genuinely objectionable
** i.e. not just shows I don't like
** i.e. not just shows I don't like
 
** [[Animu/HostVetoes]]
== Future possibilities ==
=== Shows that we considered schedule-worthy ===
* Minami-ke (not exactly supported per se, but a fallback comedy option)
* The Legend of Korra
** Mixed feelings. Episode 1 was painful, Korra is like another Subaru at the beginning. Fortunately they ease off the "this character is naive due to her upbringing and we need to show it" pretty quickly. Seems like it could have some promise, but the plot development seems very formulaic ("Introduce Heroine. Introduce Teacher. Inevitable heroine/teacher conflict. Introduce allies. Introduce nemesis.") - does it manage to grow beyond this? Also a bit wary of another year-long show.  --maxb
*** Does it ever cease being a fantasy adventure show? No, at least not in the part I've seen. Does it get into more complex/ambiguous territory, develop meaningful longer-term arcs, and go beyond simplistic good vs evil? Yes, absolutely. (And Korra does suffer for her mistakes and start to learn from them - she'll always be headstrong but not to the point of incompetence the way she is in the first few episodes)
* Have some reservations about immediately diving into this right after FMAB but I could be persuaded. -MP
** Have already seen season 1, but would be super enthusiastic for this. - maria
* Ore Monogatari (24)
** An unconventional romance, with lots of storytelling to do along the way, and some comedy moments. Though the subject matter is completely different, the viewing experience feels a bit like Shirayuki-hime - there is a continuity, but it's very episodic. --maxb
* Gundam Unicorn (7) (really awkward to fit in a schedule, but I've heard so much good about it)
* Chihayafuru S2
** How many of us have seen S1? I support Chihayafuru as a great show, but feel that people watching S2 without having seen S1 would be missing out on a lot. --maxb
** I have not seen Chihayafuru and am unlikely to watch it in my own time. --YYY
* Hellsing Ultimate
** Almost-veto from Mark, and awkward to fit into a schedule. (10 x double-length episodes)
 
=== Proposals which have not been fully evaluated ===
* Barakamon (12)
** Original suggestion was from YYY, I believe
*** Slice of life/comedy/drama about Tokyo calligrapher sent to live in remote Japanese island. --YYYY
* Seems promising, based on reading a review. --maxb
* White Album 2
** The "2" refers to it being the second anime in that setting, but the storyline is entirely independent. The extent of the overlap is that the protagonists like the same pieces of music.
** Caution: Mild spoilers exist in some episode titles.
** A difficult show to comment on without spoilers. I watched it after having its soundtrack turn up on Google Play Music, and then seeing it turn up in an "if you liked 'Your Lie in April' you might like". In retrospect I should have thought a little more about why it was there. Let's just say the ending isn't all sunshine and happiness and leave it at that. I really liked some parts, and the bits I didn't like I still found sufficiently compelling that I stayed up way too late watching the second half of the series all the way through to the end. Whilst I'm not happy with the chosen direction of the plot, I admire the narrative craft. In the words of http://kotaku.com/white-album-2-is-one-of-last-season-s-hidden-gems-1541072591 (which, if you read, you really need to obey the instructions to skip sections containing spoilers): "If you need a serious romantic drama in your life, there are few better emotional rollercoasters in recent anime than White Album 2. Just don’t expect to come out of it feeling happy and fulfilled." --maxb
* Sabagebu!
** Comedy about high school survival game club. -YYY
** Watched episode 1. Feeling mostly neutral about it: it was kind of amusing at times, but sometimes felt like just a bunch of gags pasted together into makeshift plot. --maxb
** Started episode 1, it didn't really hold my attention --lmm
* Non Non Biyori
** I enjoyed the first episode up to a point, but don't really feel the need to see more - it was somewhat amusing but ideally we'd find better things for the schedule --lmm
*** Oh, it's not your suggestion originally (as the wiki history would imply) ? --maxb
**** I suggested when we were brainstorming at dinner, on the grounds that CUAMS had watched it.
* Very much iyashikei but has some comedic moments. I loved it but I don't think it's everyone's cuppa. --YYY
** I watched season 1, it was pleasant. --maxb
** I don't think Non Non Biyori should go in the comedy slot because half of the audience will be bored to tears. - YYY
** I feel that after two seasons of Rabbit, we're due a change of pace from "girls do everyday stuff in their picturesque town", but that Non Non Biyori could still be a good slot 5 in the future. --maxb
* Kaiba - older but it seems most of us haven't seen it, and I could stand to watch it again --lmm
** Watching that scene once in company was enough. It's a good show but I'm not super enthused. - MP
** The art style leaves me deeply unenthused. (Watched PV and a few minutes of ep 1) --maxb
* New Game! (ニューゲーム Nyū Gēmu)
** Cute girls designing cute vidya characters. -YYY
** Seen, liked, would watch again. --maxb
** Watched one episode - seems fun, would watch more. - maria
** There are now two seasons, but season 1 comfortably stands alone. Season 2 was a fun chance to revisit the characters, but would probably seem a bit same-y if watched consecutively with season 1. --maxb
* Poco's Udon World (うどんの国の金色毛鞠 Udon no Kuni no Kiniro Kemari)
** Another propaganda anime for raising birth rates in Japan. Guy from Tokyo goes back to hometown, finds and takes care of a young boy who is actually a tanuki. Hijinks ensue. Also, first anime I've seen with a Maserati in it. -YYY
* Mirai Nikki
** Apparently, not enough people in this group have seen it. - AIM
* Seiren セイレン
** A school rom-com on the silly side. More amusement than actual romance. The male protagonist is a bit of a bland nothing character, but I think that's basically the point - he's just there to enable the shenanigans. This is the show doing three 4-episode arcs each with a different girl - though, it seems the girls are going to occasionally cross into each other's stories. To my mind this is more slot 4/5 material than slot 6. --maxb
*** Retrospective thoughts: Male protagonist did actually turn into some semblance of an actual character by the end. This was a very fun series. The final episode ended up more in the romance genre, but I'd still try to get this into the comedy slot if we don't have a better contender.
* Made in Abyss
** A journey by two children into a seemingly bottomless pit, with danger increasing with depth.
** Seen it, liked it. Not suitable for young children. -- AIM
** Final episode is double length
* The Ancient Magus' Bride / Mahoutsukai no Yome
** 24 episodes
** Current season
** Fantasy storytelling
** Bit too early to tell how well it's going to turn out, but seems potentially promising. --maxb
 
=== Special candidates ===
* Gunbuster
* Garakowa: Restore the World - a 1h film from Winter 2016, pretty, good music, and interesting enough, though did leave me questioning why they handled the pacing the way they did. --maxb
* Initial D Legend (a reboot/retelling of the start of the story with better animation - first one watched already)
* TO 2 (Symbiotic Planet) since we watched the first? --lmm


== History ==
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