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Being a place for the planning of communal anime viewing.
Being a place for the planning of communal anime viewing. Seasons are named after the relevant anime season; we're currently around 2/3 of a season "behind" (i.e. our "Spring" season started in early June).


== Autumn 2013 Planning ==
* Samurai Flamenco? (probably good, I need to 3-episode-test)
* Allison to Lillia? (good enough, though me and Lestaki have seen it before - not current season)
* Eccentric Family? (slightly awkward premise and not very memorable)
* Space Battleship Yamato 2199 (the remake)
* Hellsing Ultimate?
* Archer S5 (starts Jan 13th)
* Planetes? (old, but only steven has seen it)
* If we're digging things out of the cuams vault, how about Ga-Rei Zero?
* Kyousiga I keep hearing fanboyism of


== Christmas Bonus Series (at least 4 episodes - 3 at a pinch) ==
* Macross Plus?
* Gundam War in the Pocket?
* Macross Zero?
* Hanbun no Tsuki ga Noboru Sora?
* Freedom?


== Christmas period Schedule ==
== Spring 2020 Schedule ==
* Dec 4: Gatchaman/Sunday/Symphogear 11, Titan 22, Simoun 23, Mystery 1
* Dec 11: Gatchaman/Sunday/Symphogear 12, Titan 23, Simoun 24, Mystery 2
* Dec 18: Symphogear 13, Titan 24-25, Simoun 25-26, Mystery 3
* Jan 1: Nanoha As Movie?
* Jan 8: Mystery 4, a bunch of new series; alternately more movies (e.g. time of eve).
* Jan 15: Archer is available from now on


== Summer 2013 Schedule ==
One day we might even be able to resume meetings after COVID-19 and actually watch it...
* Gatchaman Crowds
* Attack on Titan
* The Sunday Without God
* Fate/Kaleid Liner Prisma☆Ilya
* Senki Zesshou Symphogear G: In the Distance, That Day, When the Star Became Music...
* Simoun
* (Also unofficial Kiddy Grade from time to time)


== Spring 2013 Schedule ==
* Fate/Grand Order Absolute Demonic Front: Babylonia
* Psycho-Pass
* In/Spectre (Kyokou Suiri)
* Attack on Titan
* Legend of the Galactic Heroes: Die Neue These Second
* Zetsuen no Tempest
* Chihayafuru
* Demon King at Work
* Hands off the Motion Picture Club! (Eizouken ni wa Te wo Dasu na!)
* Archer
* Domestic Girlfriend
* Simoun
* (Also unofficial Martian Successor Nadesico from time to time)
 
== New Location ==


Flat 31, Rosecrest Court, 344 High Road, London N15 4ET. Still 18:45 on Wednesdays.
=== Ending Alignment ===


== Moving House Bonus Meeting ==
Ending:
* Magical Girl Lyrical Nanoha The Movie 1st
* Sci-Fi: In/Spectre
* Voices of a Distant Star
* General 1: Galactic Heroes
* Comedy: Eizouken
* Drama/Romance: Domestic Girlfriend


== Winter 2013 Schedule ==
All running 12 episodes.
* Psycho-Pass
* Shinsekai Yori
* Zetsuen no Tempest
* AKB0048
* Archer
* Princess Jellyfish
* (Also unofficial Aquarion EVOL from time to time)


== Christmas 2012 Bonus Meeting ==
Continuing:
* Strike Witches the Movie
* Action: Babylonia - 10 episodes next cour (accounting for episode 0)
* Pale Cocoon
* General 2/Sports: Chihayfuru - 13 episodes next cour


== Autumn 2012 Schedule ==
== Future possibilities ==
* Muv-Luv Alternative: Total Eclipse
=== Shows that we considered schedule-worthy ===
* Shinsekai Yori
* The Legend of Korra
* Secret of Cerulean Sand
** Mixed feelings. Episode 1 was painful, Korra is like another Subaru at the beginning. Fortunately they ease off the "this character is naive due to her upbringing and we need to show it" pretty quickly. Seems like it could have some promise, but the plot development seems very formulaic ("Introduce Heroine. Introduce Teacher. Inevitable heroine/teacher conflict. Introduce allies. Introduce nemesis.") - does it manage to grow beyond this? Also a bit wary of another year-long show.  --maxb
* Archer
*** Does it ever cease being a fantasy adventure show? No, at least not in the part I've seen. Does it get into more complex/ambiguous territory, develop meaningful longer-term arcs, and go beyond simplistic good vs evil? Yes, absolutely. (And Korra does suffer for her mistakes and start to learn from them - she'll always be headstrong but not to the point of incompetence the way she is in the first few episodes)
* Accel World
* Have some reservations about immediately diving into this right after FMAB but I could be persuaded. -MP
* Tonari no Kaibutsu-kun
** Have already seen season 1, but would be super enthusiastic for this. - maria
* DVD-only episodes of Kokoro Connect
* Ore Monogatari
* (Also unofficial Grenadier from time to time)
** An unconventional romance, with lots of storytelling to do along the way, and some comedy moments. Though the subject matter is completely different, the viewing experience feels a bit like Shirayuki-hime - there is a continuity, but it's very episodic. --maxb
* Akanesasu Shoujo
* Demon Slayer (Kimetsu no Yaiba)
* Kobayashi-san's Dragon Maid 小林さんちのマイドラゴン
** A light-hearted series with an underlying theme of interpersonal relationships improving people's (and dragons') lives. Best last episode that I've seen for a long time. --maxb


== Summer 2012 Schedule ==
=== Shows saved to revisit as backup options if needed ===
* Muv-Luv Alternative: Total Eclipse
* Secret of Cerulean Sand
* Archer
* Accel World
* Space Bros (Dropped)
* Tari Tari
* Kokoro Connect
* (Also unofficial Seirei no Morbito from time to time)


== Spring 2012 Schedule ==
* Fate/cooking (Emiya-san chi kyou no gohan)
* Jormungand
** Semi-short, episodes are ~13 minutes each.
* Dantalian no Shoka
** maxb: Very little happens in this show, but it does so in a soothingly fun way, apt to leave a smile on your face.
* AKB0048
* Natsuiro Kiseki
* Space Bros
* Wandering Son
* (Also unofficial Seirei no Morbito from time to time)


== Winter 2012 Schedule (disrupted by Japan trip and change of attendees) ==
=== Proposals which have not been fully evaluated ===
* Fate/Zero (dropped after ~20 episodes)
* The Magnificent Kotobuki
* Moretsu Pirates (dropped after ~14 epsiodes)
** It may seem like some frivolous fun leaning on aerial combat scenes at first, but it's actually some some fair light sci-fi world building by the time it finishes up, too. --maxb
* Fireball (short)
* Hugtto! PreCure (general) --lmm
* Senki Zesshou Symphogear
** Enormous committment that will likely be pushed aside, but mentioning just in case
* Last Exile ~Fam, the Silver Wing~
** Definitely the best PreCure that I have watched, outdoing HeartCatch, Suite, Yes! 5, Yes! 5 Go Go (I dropped that one). I'd be on board with watching this again. It wasn't perfect (I think they could have used a bit more budget in the middle of the third cour) but it was fun, endearing, and critically managed to avoid over-using the monster-of-the-week formula for most of its content, which is a pitfall many of the earlier PreCures have fallen into to various extents. Given the format of the show, it could actually work to decide to watch 1 cour and then reassess, if people are hesitant to sign up for the whole 49 episode run. --maxb
* Chihayafuru
** Probably have to give up on this one, as no-one spoke up in favour beyond us two :-/
* Princess Tutu
* Fire Force (action) -- AIM
* Honey & Clover
** I watched episode 1 - no strong opinions either way. Needs an action fan to opine. --maxb
* (Also unofficial Seirei no Morbito from time to time)
* Kaguya-sama: Love is War season 2 (airs from April)
** I think we all liked season 1 -- maxb


== Autumn 2011 Schedule ==
See also: [[Animu/OldProposals]]
* Fate/Zero
* Horizon in the Middle of Nowhere
* Last Exile ~Fam, the Silver Wing~
* Chihayafuru
* Princess Tutu
* Honey & Clover


== "Squash" ==
=== Special candidates ===
* Read or Die OVA (in accordance with tradition)
* Gundam The Origin (3/6 watched)
* First episode of Fate/Zero
* Gunbuster --lmm
* Garakowa: Restore the World - a 1h film from Winter 2016, pretty, good music, and interesting enough, though did leave me questioning why they handled the pacing the way they did. --maxb
* Gochuumon wa Usagi desu ka?? ~Dear My Sister~ (ご注文はうさぎですか?? ~Dear My Sister~) [~60mins] - More GochiUsa for those who liked the TV series. Feels like a 60min episodes more than a movie. --YYY
* "Blame! Movie" -- AIM
** https://anilist.co/anime/21498/Blame-Movie/
** A group of humans trying to survive in a self-replicating city that is trying to kill them. Action/Sci-Fi.
* Mary and the Witches Flower
** https://anilist.co/anime/97981/Mary-to-Majo-no-Hana/
** AIM: I wanted to see this one when it came out, but missed it.


== Time/Place ==
== Informal planning principles ==
Lmm's (88 Chesterfield Gardens, Finsbury Park), 18:45 on Wednesdays
* None of this is absolute. These are guidelines only and if following them would mean watching bad shows and not watching good shows then we will overrule them
* We watch about 2:30 each week - normally 6 normal-length TV episodes from 6 different shows (watching each show from start to finish at one episode per week)
** If a significant number of attendees will miss one or two meetings (e.g. during holiday periods) we set aside the regular schedule and show "specials" instead.
* We try to group the schedule into "seasons" (i.e. start and finish a group of shows at the same time) to provide some structure and (at least theoretically) to give newcomers a reasonable point at which to join.
** Seasons are long enough to complete a "short" show (i.e. 12 or 13 weeks) and do not necessarily align with calendar seasons
** We aim to start shows when they are still airing, but after enough episodes have aired to reasonably evaluate them (usually three or four)
** Seasons are named on this page after the "anime season" from which shows could have appeared in that season
*** i.e. if we start a season just before spring ends and summer begins (or even after a few summer episodes have aired, but not enough for summer shows to be considered for the schedule), we will call that season "spring"
*** i.e. at any given time we may be up to a season "behind realtime"
* Avoid falling into a rut
** We try to enforce a mix of genres by using "slots"
*** Approximate slots
**** Action and/or general fast-paced
**** Sci-Fi
**** General, faster and/or more serious
**** General or sports, slower and/or more lighthearted
**** Comedy
**** Romance and/or drama
** Slot order is so that the tonal arc of the evening makes some sense
*** This sounds really wishy-washy, but at the same time it genuinely is surprisingly important - we've had meetings where we watched things in the "wrong" order for technical reasons and it didn't go well
** We can skip, reassign or "fudge" a slot if there really are no good shows in that genre that season, but we should be very wary if we find ourselves repeatedly skipping the same slot
** "Current" shows generally take priority over older shows
*** If there are not enough schedule-quality shows then we look to recent shows that we considered schedule-quality but did not make the schedule in a previous season, and/or to "classic" shows
* Try to reach a consensus but also to broaden our horizons
** We largely rely on attendees watching at least the first few episodes of a show and then proposing it for the schedule
** We try to avoid scheduling a show that any attendee strenuously objects to
*** This is not absolute, particularly if there are enough "vetos" to make it difficult to assemble a schedule at all
* We would prefer to air a show that some love and others dislike (though not hate) than one that everyone is "meh" about
** This is not to say that shows have to be controversial or provocative (though at the same time we don't shy away from such shows)
*** There is plenty of space for a well-crafted "safe" show, just not for a mediocre one.
*** Shows that are ambitious will ideally be given slightly more leeway regarding weaknesses in other areas.
**** But only slightly.
** Conversely shows that are content to remain within their genre ("if you want x you know where to find it") will ideally be held to a slightly higher standard.
* We call shows that two or more people supported and no-one strenuously objected to "schedule-worthy" and list them separately below
** Experience suggests that we will most likely air them sooner or later
** This is solely as a matter of practicality; it doesn't imply any firm commitment
* We can and do drop shows partway through, even partway through a season, but only when there is a firm consensus for doing so
** Generally if even one attendee was still enjoying a given show we would not drop it
* The host retains an absolute veto over anything they find genuinely objectionable
** i.e. not just shows I don't like
** [[Animu/HostVetoes]]


== History ==
[[Animu/History]]

Latest revision as of 13:28, 11 May 2021

Being a place for the planning of communal anime viewing.


Spring 2020 Schedule

One day we might even be able to resume meetings after COVID-19 and actually watch it...

  • Fate/Grand Order Absolute Demonic Front: Babylonia
  • In/Spectre (Kyokou Suiri)
  • Legend of the Galactic Heroes: Die Neue These Second
  • Chihayafuru
  • Hands off the Motion Picture Club! (Eizouken ni wa Te wo Dasu na!)
  • Domestic Girlfriend

Ending Alignment

Ending:

  • Sci-Fi: In/Spectre
  • General 1: Galactic Heroes
  • Comedy: Eizouken
  • Drama/Romance: Domestic Girlfriend

All running 12 episodes.

Continuing:

  • Action: Babylonia - 10 episodes next cour (accounting for episode 0)
  • General 2/Sports: Chihayfuru - 13 episodes next cour

Future possibilities

Shows that we considered schedule-worthy

  • The Legend of Korra
    • Mixed feelings. Episode 1 was painful, Korra is like another Subaru at the beginning. Fortunately they ease off the "this character is naive due to her upbringing and we need to show it" pretty quickly. Seems like it could have some promise, but the plot development seems very formulaic ("Introduce Heroine. Introduce Teacher. Inevitable heroine/teacher conflict. Introduce allies. Introduce nemesis.") - does it manage to grow beyond this? Also a bit wary of another year-long show. --maxb
      • Does it ever cease being a fantasy adventure show? No, at least not in the part I've seen. Does it get into more complex/ambiguous territory, develop meaningful longer-term arcs, and go beyond simplistic good vs evil? Yes, absolutely. (And Korra does suffer for her mistakes and start to learn from them - she'll always be headstrong but not to the point of incompetence the way she is in the first few episodes)
  • Have some reservations about immediately diving into this right after FMAB but I could be persuaded. -MP
    • Have already seen season 1, but would be super enthusiastic for this. - maria
  • Ore Monogatari
    • An unconventional romance, with lots of storytelling to do along the way, and some comedy moments. Though the subject matter is completely different, the viewing experience feels a bit like Shirayuki-hime - there is a continuity, but it's very episodic. --maxb
  • Akanesasu Shoujo
  • Demon Slayer (Kimetsu no Yaiba)
  • Kobayashi-san's Dragon Maid 小林さんちのマイドラゴン
    • A light-hearted series with an underlying theme of interpersonal relationships improving people's (and dragons') lives. Best last episode that I've seen for a long time. --maxb

Shows saved to revisit as backup options if needed

  • Fate/cooking (Emiya-san chi kyou no gohan)
    • Semi-short, episodes are ~13 minutes each.
    • maxb: Very little happens in this show, but it does so in a soothingly fun way, apt to leave a smile on your face.

Proposals which have not been fully evaluated

  • The Magnificent Kotobuki
    • It may seem like some frivolous fun leaning on aerial combat scenes at first, but it's actually some some fair light sci-fi world building by the time it finishes up, too. --maxb
  • Hugtto! PreCure (general) --lmm
    • Enormous committment that will likely be pushed aside, but mentioning just in case
    • Definitely the best PreCure that I have watched, outdoing HeartCatch, Suite, Yes! 5, Yes! 5 Go Go (I dropped that one). I'd be on board with watching this again. It wasn't perfect (I think they could have used a bit more budget in the middle of the third cour) but it was fun, endearing, and critically managed to avoid over-using the monster-of-the-week formula for most of its content, which is a pitfall many of the earlier PreCures have fallen into to various extents. Given the format of the show, it could actually work to decide to watch 1 cour and then reassess, if people are hesitant to sign up for the whole 49 episode run. --maxb
    • Probably have to give up on this one, as no-one spoke up in favour beyond us two :-/
  • Fire Force (action) -- AIM
    • I watched episode 1 - no strong opinions either way. Needs an action fan to opine. --maxb
  • Kaguya-sama: Love is War season 2 (airs from April)
    • I think we all liked season 1 -- maxb

See also: Animu/OldProposals

Special candidates

  • Gundam The Origin (3/6 watched)
  • Gunbuster --lmm
  • Garakowa: Restore the World - a 1h film from Winter 2016, pretty, good music, and interesting enough, though did leave me questioning why they handled the pacing the way they did. --maxb
  • Gochuumon wa Usagi desu ka?? ~Dear My Sister~ (ご注文はうさぎですか?? ~Dear My Sister~) [~60mins] - More GochiUsa for those who liked the TV series. Feels like a 60min episodes more than a movie. --YYY
  • "Blame! Movie" -- AIM
  • Mary and the Witches Flower

Informal planning principles

  • None of this is absolute. These are guidelines only and if following them would mean watching bad shows and not watching good shows then we will overrule them
  • We watch about 2:30 each week - normally 6 normal-length TV episodes from 6 different shows (watching each show from start to finish at one episode per week)
    • If a significant number of attendees will miss one or two meetings (e.g. during holiday periods) we set aside the regular schedule and show "specials" instead.
  • We try to group the schedule into "seasons" (i.e. start and finish a group of shows at the same time) to provide some structure and (at least theoretically) to give newcomers a reasonable point at which to join.
    • Seasons are long enough to complete a "short" show (i.e. 12 or 13 weeks) and do not necessarily align with calendar seasons
    • We aim to start shows when they are still airing, but after enough episodes have aired to reasonably evaluate them (usually three or four)
    • Seasons are named on this page after the "anime season" from which shows could have appeared in that season
      • i.e. if we start a season just before spring ends and summer begins (or even after a few summer episodes have aired, but not enough for summer shows to be considered for the schedule), we will call that season "spring"
      • i.e. at any given time we may be up to a season "behind realtime"
  • Avoid falling into a rut
    • We try to enforce a mix of genres by using "slots"
      • Approximate slots
        • Action and/or general fast-paced
        • Sci-Fi
        • General, faster and/or more serious
        • General or sports, slower and/or more lighthearted
        • Comedy
        • Romance and/or drama
    • Slot order is so that the tonal arc of the evening makes some sense
      • This sounds really wishy-washy, but at the same time it genuinely is surprisingly important - we've had meetings where we watched things in the "wrong" order for technical reasons and it didn't go well
    • We can skip, reassign or "fudge" a slot if there really are no good shows in that genre that season, but we should be very wary if we find ourselves repeatedly skipping the same slot
    • "Current" shows generally take priority over older shows
      • If there are not enough schedule-quality shows then we look to recent shows that we considered schedule-quality but did not make the schedule in a previous season, and/or to "classic" shows
  • Try to reach a consensus but also to broaden our horizons
    • We largely rely on attendees watching at least the first few episodes of a show and then proposing it for the schedule
    • We try to avoid scheduling a show that any attendee strenuously objects to
      • This is not absolute, particularly if there are enough "vetos" to make it difficult to assemble a schedule at all
  • We would prefer to air a show that some love and others dislike (though not hate) than one that everyone is "meh" about
    • This is not to say that shows have to be controversial or provocative (though at the same time we don't shy away from such shows)
      • There is plenty of space for a well-crafted "safe" show, just not for a mediocre one.
      • Shows that are ambitious will ideally be given slightly more leeway regarding weaknesses in other areas.
        • But only slightly.
    • Conversely shows that are content to remain within their genre ("if you want x you know where to find it") will ideally be held to a slightly higher standard.
  • We call shows that two or more people supported and no-one strenuously objected to "schedule-worthy" and list them separately below
    • Experience suggests that we will most likely air them sooner or later
    • This is solely as a matter of practicality; it doesn't imply any firm commitment
  • We can and do drop shows partway through, even partway through a season, but only when there is a firm consensus for doing so
    • Generally if even one attendee was still enjoying a given show we would not drop it
  • The host retains an absolute veto over anything they find genuinely objectionable

History

Animu/History