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==== Costs ====

Train fares beyond Warsaw are taken from RealRussia and some chinese travel website. Cheaper flights may be available. These costs are for travel (which essentially includes most of our accomodation), but do not include food or other expenses.

===== Trans-Mongolian =====

* London-Cologne: £92.50 urk, guess saturday's a bad day for eurostaring.

* Cologne-Warsaw: #42.4550258 if booked in advance

* Warsaw-Minsk: £71.89 in 2nd class, possibly less in third. Warsaw-Kiev: £126.98 in 2nd class during the day, sleeper fares unknown

* Minsk-Moscow: £71.87 or £39.30 in 3rd class on slow train. Kiev-Moscow: £94.04 2nd class on fast train, £61.83 3rd class on slow train.

* Moscow-Beijing: £534.94 2nd class (possibly cheaper in 3rd class)

* Beijing-Shanghai: #44.2369132 in seat, #57.1393463 in cabin

* Shanghai-Osaka: #164.905382

* Osaka-Tokyo: #63.7884001

* Tokyo-London: £529.29 on sunday, £440.19 on monday

Visas:

* Belarus £81.44 - so actually cheaper to go via Kiev

* Russia: £95 or maybe less

* Mongolia: #35

* China: #45

~~Moscow-Beijing~~: ~~£534~~.~~94 2nd class~~ (~~possibly cheaper in 3rd class~~)

Minimum maximum total cost: #1746.8257211 (assuming return on Monday) We could always take the ferry to Amsterdam at the start, would save a little bit.

~~Beijing-Shanghai: #44.2369132 in seat, #57.1393463 in cabin~~

~~Shanghai-Osaka: #164.905382~~

~~Osaka-Tokyo: #63.7884001~~

~~Tokyo-London: £529.29 on sunday~~, ~~£440~~.~~19 on monday~~

===== Kazhakstan =====

Moscow-Astana: £138.86 3rd class, £235.43 2nd class

* London-Amsterdam: #34

Astana-Urumqi: #98.3042517

* Amsterdam-Warsaw: #42.4550258 if booked in advance

Urumqi-Lanzhou: #49.7665274 in seat, #82.9442123 in cabin

* Warsaw-Moscow: £133.10

Lanzhou-Shanghai: #55.2961416 in seat, #92.1602359 in cabin

* Moscow-Astana: £138.86 3rd class, £235.43 2nd class

Shanghai-Osaka: #161.157533

* Astana-Urumqi: #98.3042517

Osaka-Tokyo: #63.7884001

* Urumqi-Lanzhou: #49.7665274 in seat, #82.9442123 in cabin

Tokyo-London: £529.29 on sunday, £440.19 on monday

* Lanzhou-Shanghai: #55.2961416 in seat, #92.1602359 in cabin

* Shanghai-Osaka: #161.157533

* Osaka-Tokyo: #63.7884001

* Tokyo-London: £529.29 on sunday, £440.19 on monday

Vizas:

* Belarus £81.44

* Russia: £95

* Kazhakstan: #15

* China: #45

Minimum maximum total cost: #1482.4578796 (assuming return on Sunday - could save some by making it Monday)

== Discussion ==

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For more detailed planning see /LmmStreamOfConsciousness

I (Smith) am wary of costs here, as these may spiral wildly due to the financial corollary of Hofstadter's Law. I would attach quite a strong weighting to cheapness when considering these plans, and I also feel that the route to cheapness may be through simplicity of itinerary

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 ==== Costs ====
+Train fares beyond Warsaw are taken from RealRussia and some chinese travel website. Cheaper flights may be available. These costs are for travel (which essentially includes most of our accomodation), but do not include food or other expenses.
 ===== Trans-Mongolian =====
+* London-Cologne: £92.50 urk, guess saturday's a bad day for eurostaring.
+* Cologne-Warsaw: #42.4550258 if booked in advance
+* Warsaw-Minsk: £71.89 in 2nd class, possibly less in third. Warsaw-Kiev: £126.98 in 2nd class during the day, sleeper fares unknown
+* Minsk-Moscow: £71.87 or £39.30 in 3rd class on slow train. Kiev-Moscow: £94.04 2nd class on fast train, £61.83 3rd class on slow train.
+* Moscow-Beijing: £534.94 2nd class (possibly cheaper in 3rd class)
+* Beijing-Shanghai: #44.2369132 in seat, #57.1393463 in cabin
+* Shanghai-Osaka: #164.905382
+* Osaka-Tokyo: #63.7884001
+* Tokyo-London: £529.29 on sunday, £440.19 on monday
+Visas:
+* Belarus £81.44 - so actually cheaper to go via Kiev
+* Russia: £95 or maybe less
+* Mongolia: #35
+* China: #45
-Moscow-Beijing: £534.94 2nd class (possibly cheaper in 3rd class)
+Minimum maximum total cost: #1746.8257211 (assuming return on Monday) We could always take the ferry to Amsterdam at the start, would save a little bit.
-Beijing-Shanghai: #44.2369132 in seat, #57.1393463 in cabin
-Shanghai-Osaka: #164.905382
-Osaka-Tokyo: #63.7884001
-Tokyo-London: £529.29 on sunday, £440.19 on monday
 ===== Kazhakstan =====
-Moscow-Astana: £138.86 3rd class, £235.43 2nd class
+* London-Amsterdam: #34
-Astana-Urumqi: #98.3042517
+* Amsterdam-Warsaw: #42.4550258 if booked in advance
-Urumqi-Lanzhou: #49.7665274 in seat, #82.9442123 in cabin
+* Warsaw-Moscow: £133.10
-Lanzhou-Shanghai: #55.2961416 in seat, #92.1602359 in cabin
+* Moscow-Astana: £138.86 3rd class, £235.43 2nd class
-Shanghai-Osaka: #161.157533
+* Astana-Urumqi: #98.3042517
-Osaka-Tokyo: #63.7884001
+* Urumqi-Lanzhou: #49.7665274 in seat, #82.9442123 in cabin
-Tokyo-London: £529.29 on sunday, £440.19 on monday
+* Lanzhou-Shanghai: #55.2961416 in seat, #92.1602359 in cabin
+* Shanghai-Osaka: #161.157533
+* Osaka-Tokyo: #63.7884001
+* Tokyo-London: £529.29 on sunday, £440.19 on monday
+Vizas:
+* Belarus £81.44
+* Russia: £95
+* Kazhakstan: #15
+* China: #45
+Minimum maximum total cost: #1482.4578796 (assuming return on Sunday - could save some by making it Monday)
 == Discussion ==
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 For more detailed planning see /LmmStreamOfConsciousness
+I (Smith) am wary of costs here, as these may spiral wildly due to the financial corollary of Hofstadter's Law. I would attach quite a strong weighting to cheapness when considering these plans, and I also feel that the route to cheapness may be through simplicity of itinerary