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= THE PLAN =
= THE PLAN =
... rotated and time-recalculated for a Zagreb start (I leave below the plan, unmodified, which some of Rev and/or Phil posted (with a rant, which I admit I did not leave), for comparison purposes)
... rotated and time-recalculated for a Zagreb start (I leave the plan, unmodified, in the archive)


# AM: Fly to Zagreb; PM: Zagreb -> Ljubljana (90 miles, 2 hrs); explore Ljubljana
# AM: Fly to Zagreb; PM: Zagreb -> Ljubljana (90 miles, 2 hrs); explore Ljubljana
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# AM: Ljubljana -> Zagreb (90 miles, 2 hrs). PM: Fly home.
# AM: Ljubljana -> Zagreb (90 miles, 2 hrs). PM: Fly home.


'''I am additionally aware''' that this uses 15 days, not 16 days. This is partially due to it being more efficient when starting at Zagreb, and partially due to the long day from Budapest to Sarajevo via Vukovar. I posit the following suggestions for a use of the extra day:
'''I am additionally aware''' that this uses 15 days, not 16 days. This is partially due to it being more efficient when starting at Zagreb, and partially due to the long day from Budapest to Sarajevo via Vukovar. IT HAS BEEN POSITED that the optimal use of this day is to deal with our finding ourselves unable to match the Plan's demands, and, consequently, to using it to absorb time as and when we see fit. Should we not need to do this, we can always expend it in e.g. Trieste at the end of the Plan.
* To take 2 days going from Budapest to Sarajevo, spending a night in Vukovar on the way. This avoids a 350-mile drive with at least one border crossing, which is likely to take about 8 or 9 hours. (I myself do not mind the thing outlined above for this day, but those who may potentially wish EITHER to see Vukovar more OR to drive less may object to it.)
* To spend an extra day cruising the Tatras, and exploring (not in this order) Miskolc, Eger and Krakow (which does in fact have quite a lot of stuff).
* Was there something in Bratislava? I think someone mentioned it, but I am not sure why.


[http://www.bing.com/maps/?v=2&cp=46.72111103739144~21.680328994989473&lvl=6&dir=0&sty=c&rtp=pos.45.80638_15.967_Zagreb%2C%20Croatia<u>_a_~pos.46.051247_14.503062_Ljubljana%2C%20Slovenia</u>_a_~pos.46.282215267419815_13.858729898929596_Bohinjsko%20Jezero%2C%20Slovenia<u>_e_~pos.46.051247_14.503062_Ljubljana%2C%20Slovenia</u>_a_~pos.48.202549_16.368799_Vienna%2C%20Austria<u>_a_~pos.50.06007_19.932595_Cracow%2C%20Poland</u>_a_~pos.48.10563_20.790578_Miskolc%2C%20Hungary<u>_a_~pos.47.506225_19.06482_Budapest%2C%20Hungary</u>_a_~pos.43.856426_18.413422_Sarajevo%2C%20Bosnia%20and%20Herzegovina<u>_a_~pos.42.448307_19.26959_Podgorica%2C%20Montenegro</u>_a_~pos.42.642757_18.110659_Dubrovnik%2C%20Croatia<u>_a_~pos.43.340287_17.808344_Mostar%2C%20Bosnia%20and%20Herzegovina</u>_a_~pos.43.506985_16.441719_Split%2C%20Croatia<u>_a_~pos.45.65065_13.76709_Trieste%2C%20Fr.V.G.%2C%20Italy</u>_a_~pos.45.80638_15.967_Zagreb%2C%20Croatia___a_&mode=D&rtop=0~0~0~ HERE IS A MAP.] Please note that the map depicted, due to limitations placed upon numbers of checkpoints and of countries in which it works, does not show stops at (in order): Tard/Eger, Vukovar, Pluzine, Plitvice, probably some others; it also shows nothing like the correct route from Sarajevo to Podgorica. I have also not taken into account the distances to places which are not exactly within the towns; the total distance covered is, in truth, closer to 2,400 or even 2,500 miles.
[http://www.bing.com/maps/?v=2&cp=46.72111103739144~21.680328994989473&lvl=6&dir=0&sty=c&rtp=pos.45.80638_15.967_Zagreb%2C%20Croatia<u>_a_~pos.46.051247_14.503062_Ljubljana%2C%20Slovenia</u>_a_~pos.46.282215267419815_13.858729898929596_Bohinjsko%20Jezero%2C%20Slovenia<u>_e_~pos.46.051247_14.503062_Ljubljana%2C%20Slovenia</u>_a_~pos.48.202549_16.368799_Vienna%2C%20Austria<u>_a_~pos.50.06007_19.932595_Cracow%2C%20Poland</u>_a_~pos.48.10563_20.790578_Miskolc%2C%20Hungary<u>_a_~pos.47.506225_19.06482_Budapest%2C%20Hungary</u>_a_~pos.43.856426_18.413422_Sarajevo%2C%20Bosnia%20and%20Herzegovina<u>_a_~pos.42.448307_19.26959_Podgorica%2C%20Montenegro</u>_a_~pos.42.642757_18.110659_Dubrovnik%2C%20Croatia<u>_a_~pos.43.340287_17.808344_Mostar%2C%20Bosnia%20and%20Herzegovina</u>_a_~pos.43.506985_16.441719_Split%2C%20Croatia<u>_a_~pos.45.65065_13.76709_Trieste%2C%20Fr.V.G.%2C%20Italy</u>_a_~pos.45.80638_15.967_Zagreb%2C%20Croatia___a_&mode=D&rtop=0~0~0~ HERE IS A MAP.] Please note that the map depicted, due to limitations placed upon numbers of checkpoints and of countries in which it works, does not show stops at (in order): Tard/Eger, Vukovar, Pluzine, Plitvice, probably some others; it also shows nothing like the correct route from Sarajevo to Podgorica. I have also not taken into account the distances to places which are not exactly within the towns; the total distance covered is, in truth, closer to 2,400 or even 2,500 miles.
==== (the unrotated plan follows for comparison) ====
''
# Arrive Split; explore
# Split to Sarajevo, via Mostar (5:00)
# Morning in Sarajevo, then to Pluzine (2:30)
# To Podgorica (2:00 or 3:00 via Podgorica pass) on to Kotor? (1:00)
# Podgorica/Kotor to Split (6:00+)
# Split to Plitvice/Trieste (3:30/5:00)
# to Ljubljana (2:30/1:00)
# To Bled/Bohinj and back? (1:00 * 2)
# To Vienna or Bratislava
# Vienna to Krakow, via Brno (6:00)
# Krakow, to Stavebná? in the evening (4:00)
# Day in the Tatras
# Stavebná to Budapest/Szekesfehervar (3:00)
# Budapest to Zagreb (4:00)
# Zagreb to Split
# Fly home''
Desires filled, as far as I can see:
* Lmm(3): Sarajevo, Montenegro, Miskolc
* Ed(4): Podgorica, Split, Ljubljana, Bled
* Phil: (Unknown; at least Krakow and Day in the Tatras)
* Smith(4): Sarajevo, Krakow, Vienna, Vukovar
* Rev(5): Zagreb, Budapest, Krakow, Belgrade, Vienna
* Ben: (some; including (based on conversation) Mostar, Dubrovnik, Miskolc and Eger (and Tard), Pluzine, Plitvice?)