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== A plan take a train to Munich, and back from Istanbul == | == A plan take a train to Munich, and back from Istanbul == | ||
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# Meet in London, take Eurostar to Brussels and IC(E) to Munich | # Meet in London, take Eurostar to Brussels and IC(E) to Munich | ||
# Drive to Ljubljana (3:53) via Lake Bled (on the route) | # Drive to Ljubljana (3:53) via Lake Bled (on the route) | ||
Revision as of 23:06, 18 December 2010
- London to Frankfurt (5 hours on continent + 2 in UK, so quite a long first day)
- Frankfurt to Munich (inc. some German fun) (3:25)
- Munich to Trieste (4:47)
- Trieste to Sarajevo (6:49, so quite long)
- Sarajevo to Podgorica (6:47, so quite long)
- Podgorica to Tirana (2:30, a bit of a relief after the previous two days)
- Tirana to Pristina (5:34)
- Pristina to Belgrade (3:43)
- Belgrade to Budapest (3:50)
- Budapest to Prague (4:58)
- Prague to Hannover (4:33)
- Hannover to Rotterdam (3:53)
- Rotterdam to London (2:55 on continent + 2 hours UK)
Note that this is 13 days, so we have room for expansion here.
Plan 9.Least-Car-Time
Route designed for maximal exploration of Balkans with minimal 6+ hour car journeys, maximal days with no driving.
- Fly London to Zagreb - ~£150 return, but instantly cuts at least two days of pointless Germanliness - arrive 8pm
- Zagreb to Split (4 hours by highway, 6 hours if we take the scenic coastal route)
- Split to Sarajevo (5 hours. Potential to stop in the Alps)
- Day in Sarajevo
- Sarajevo to Belgrade (5 hours)
- Belgrade to Prishtine (4 hours)
- Day in Prishtine
- Prishtine to Podgorica (5 hours)
- Podgorica to Tirana (3 hours - plenty of scenery to explore)
- Day in Tirana
- Tirana to Bitola (4 hours - additional scenery) (FYR Macedonia tick)
- Bitola to Igoumenitsa (4 hours)
- Igoumenitsa to Venice (boat - Thurs 0800 - Fri 0800)
- Venice to Zagreb
- Day in Zagreb
- Fly Zagreb to London
A plan to fly to Ljubljana, and back from Istanbul
- Fly to Ljubljana. Spend rest of the day there.
- Drive to Trieste and spend day there (1:08)
- Drive to Split (5:00)
- Spend day in Split
- Drive to Sarajevo and have a look around (4:25)
- Drive to Podgorica - quite a long trip (6:48)
- Spend day in Podgorica, then drive to Tirana (2:33)
- Morning in Tirana, then drive to Skojpe (4:40)
- Day trip to Pristina (1:34 each way)
- Spend day in Skojpe
- Drive to Salonica in morning/early afternoon. Spend rest of day there (4:00)
- Day-trip to Mount Olympus (2:39 each way)
- Spend morning in Salonica, and drive to Alexandroupoli (2:52)
- Drive to Istanbul and Asia! (3:48)
- Spend day in Istanbul
- Fly home from Istanbul
A plan take a train to Munich, and back from Istanbul
- Meet in London, take Eurostar to Brussels and IC(E) to Munich
- Drive to Ljubljana (3:53) via Lake Bled (on the route)
- Drive to Trieste via Škocjan Caves (on route) and spend day in mixture of two places (1:08)
- Drive to Split, stopping off at Plitvice Lakes (5:00 to Split, or 6:07 to include diversion to lakes and park)
- Spend day in Split
- Drive to Sarajevo via Mostar (nice bridge) and have a look around (4:25)
- Drive to Podgorica - quite a long trip (6:48)
- Spend day in Podgorica, then drive to Tirana (2:33)
- Morning in Tirana, then drive to Skojpe (4:40)
- Day trip to Pristina (1:34 each way)
- Spend day in Skojpe
- Drive to Salonica in morning/early afternoon. Spend rest of day there (4:00)
- Day-trip to Mount Olympus (2:39 each way)
- Spend morning in Salonica, and drive to Alexandroupoli (2:52)
- Drive to Istanbul and Asia! (3:48)
- Spend day in Istanbul and fly home