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== To Travel By Car: A Plan ==
== To Travel By Car: A Plan ==
day 0, friday: [ben's house] to calais [[getting to ben's] + 2 hrs drive + 1.5 hrs tunnel]
day 0, friday: [ben's house] to calais [[getting to ben's] + 2 hrs drive + 1.5 hrs tunnel]
day 1, saturday: calais to munich (a fast day, but this is just getting out) [9 hrs]
day 1, saturday: calais to munich (a fast day, but this is just getting out) [9 hrs]
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day 3, monday: ljubljana to trieste, via the skocjan caves [2 hrs + 1hr]
day 3, monday: ljubljana to trieste, via the skocjan caves [2 hrs + 1hr]
day 4, tuesday: trieste to split, via the plitvice lakes [3 hrs + 3 hrs]
day 4, tuesday: trieste to split, via the plitvice lakes [3 hrs + 3 hrs]
day 5, wednesday: day in split (this i consider subject to change)
day 5, wednesday: day in split [THIS DAY IS NOT PROPORTIONALLY IMPORTANT TO THE ATTRACTIONS LIST, it can be shuffled]
day 6, thursday: split to sarajevo, via mostar (just a pass-through) [1.5 hrs + 1.5 hrs]
day 6, thursday: split to sarajevo, via mostar (just a pass-through) [1.5 hrs + 1.5 hrs]
day 7, friday: sarajevo to belogradchik, via zica monastery [2 hrs + 4 hrs]
day 7, friday: sarajevo to belogradchik, via zica monastery [2 hrs + 4 hrs]
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== A Plan ==
== A Plan ==
# London to Frankfurt (5 hours on continent + 2 in UK, so quite a long first day)
# London to Frankfurt (5 hours on continent + 2 in UK, so quite a long first day)
# Frankfurt to Munich (inc. some German fun) (3:25)
# Frankfurt to Munich (inc. some German fun) (3:25)
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== Plan 9.Least-Car-Time ==
== Plan 9.Least-Car-Time ==
Route designed for maximal exploration of Balkans with minimal 6+ hour car journeys, maximal days with no driving.
Route designed for maximal exploration of Balkans with minimal 6+ hour car journeys, maximal days with no driving.


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== A plan to fly to Ljubljana, and back from Istanbul ==
== A plan to fly to Ljubljana, and back from Istanbul ==
[http://www.bing.com/maps/#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 A map]
[http://www.bing.com/maps/#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 A map]
# Fly to Ljubljana.  Spend rest of the day there.
# Fly to Ljubljana.  Spend rest of the day there.
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== A plan take a train to Munich, and back from Istanbul ==
== A plan take a train to Munich, and back from Istanbul ==
[http://www.bing.com/maps/#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 A Map]
[http://www.bing.com/maps/#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 A Map]
# Meet in London, take Eurostar to Brussels and IC(E) to Munich
# Meet in London, take Eurostar to Brussels and IC(E) to Munich