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== To Travel By Car: A Plan ==
== To Travel By Car: A Plan ==
# friday: [ben's house] to calais [[getting to ben's] + 2 hrs drive + 1.5 hrs tunnel]
# saturday: calais to munich (a fast day, but this is just getting out) [9 hrs]


1.#0 friday: [ben's house] to calais [[getting to ben's] + 2 hrs drive + 1.5 hrs tunnel]
# saturday: calais to munich (a fast day, but this is just getting out) [9 hrs]
--- this is where the trip proper begins ---
--- this is where the trip proper begins ---
1.#2 sunday: munich to ljubljana, via lake bled [4 hrs + 1 hr]; ljubljana in afternoon/evening
 
# sunday: munich to ljubljana, via lake bled [4 hrs + 1 hr]; ljubljana in afternoon/evening
# monday: ljubljana to trieste, via the skocjan caves [2 hrs + 1hr]; trieste in afternoon/evening
# monday: ljubljana to trieste, via the skocjan caves [2 hrs + 1hr]; trieste in afternoon/evening
# tuesday: trieste to split, via the plitvice lakes (a mainly driving day) [3 hrs + 3 hrs]
# tuesday: trieste to split, via the plitvice lakes (a mainly driving day) [3 hrs + 3 hrs]
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# thursday: if we care to do it, vienna in morning; vienna to prague [4 hrs]
# thursday: if we care to do it, vienna in morning; vienna to prague [4 hrs]
# friday: spend the day in prague
# friday: spend the day in prague
--- this is where we start the return ---
--- this is where we start the return ---
1.#15 saturday: prague to reims (a hard day's drive) [8 hrs]
 
# saturday: prague to reims (a hard day's drive) [8 hrs]
# sunday: reims to [ben's house] [5 hrs drive + 1.5 hrs tunnel + [getting home]]
# sunday: reims to [ben's house] [5 hrs drive + 1.5 hrs tunnel + [getting home]]


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* days of size >5 hrs drive in trip proper: only day 4, trieste to split and day 10, sofia to belgrade
* days of size >5 hrs drive in trip proper: only day 4, trieste to split and day 10, sofia to belgrade
* a proposed alternate also: add a third long day's drive, doing kraljevo to sofia in one run without stopping [7 hrs, direct], and adding an extra day to rest and see the sights in budapest
* a proposed alternate also: add a third long day's drive, doing kraljevo to sofia in one run without stopping [7 hrs, direct], and adding an extra day to rest and see the sights in budapest
* note please that i have allowed time in all cases for diversion, meandering, getting lost, seeing additional sights and so forth; if you believe the times in "A Plan" below then one can reduce by 20% to 30% all the times which i have given
* note please that i have allowed time in all cases for diversion, meandering, getting lost, seeing additional sights and so forth; if you believe the times in "a plan" below then one can reduce by 20% to 30% all the times which i have given
* total distance: a bit short of 3,700 miles


== A Plan ==
== A Plan ==