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* Day 15, Saturday: One glorious day in Tokyo, or something
* Day 15, Saturday: One glorious day in Tokyo, or something
* Day 16, Sunday: Morning in Toyko, and fly home.
* Day 16, Sunday: Morning in Toyko, and fly home.
Let's see if there are any efficiency savings to be had from doing it in reverse:
* Day 16, Sunday: Train to Cologne, then Brussels and Eurostar home; we have about 6 hours to spend in one or other on the way.
* Day 15, Saturday: Get the 8AM train from Moscow, overnight to Berlin.
* Day 14, Friday: Arrive in Moscow at ~6PM, spend the night there
* Day 8, Saturday: Day in Beijing, train in the evening
* Day 7, Friday: Bah. Ferry only arrives on a Thursday, leaving on Tuesday midday, so again we only get like 4 days in Japan this way.
Let's look at it another way: suppose we wanted to go to Japan and other places, how much holiday time would we need?
* Day n, Sunday: Morning in Tokyo, fly home
* Day n-1, Saturday: Let's say we're doing this at Comiket. Comiket!
* Day n-2, Friday: Mickey Comikets early. Other people go do something cultural.
* Day n-3, Thursday: Tokyo, and all its joys.
* Day n-4, Wednesday: Kyoto! History!
* Day n-5, Tuesday: Osaka! Accents!
* Day n-6, Monday: Arrive Osaka, 09:30, rest weary selves, go to a hot springs or something.
* Day n-8, Saturday: A little Shanghai in the morning, ferry at 13:00.
* Day n-9, Friday: I'm going to say spend this in Shanghai, and stay night in Shanghai.
* Day n-10, Thursday: Day in Beijing, sleeper to Shanghai.
Eek, the only good train runs tuesday to monday.
So, best option would be to extend the original plan above by a bit at the end.
Constraints: if going out, train is tuesday -> monday, and ferry is tuesday from shanghai - so not much time in shanghai.
If coming back, train goes wed -> mon (at 2:28pm, plausible flying time), ferry could arrive sunday (leaving japan on Friday). So a plausible itinerary would look something like:
* Friday evening: Gather
* Saturday hideously early morning: Planes to Japan
* Sunday morning: Arrive in Tokyo, spend some time there and in Osaka.
* Friday midday: Get ferry from Osaka
* Sunday midday: Arrive in Shanghai, spend a day and a half or so there
* Monday night (say): overnight train to Beijing, spend a day and a half there
* Wednesday morning, 8AM: get the big train
* Monday afternoon: Arrive Moscow. Lamers could at this point fly home, meaning they'd only need 2 weeks + 1 day off work; otherwise we could take the rest of the week slowly crossing Europe.



Revision as of 21:13, 9 May 2011

This is Lmm's crazy plan, that attempts to combine trains, lots of trains, with getting to Japan.

  • Day 0, Friday: Dudes gather in and around London.
  • Day 1, Saturday: Train to Paris/Brussels/Cologne and a day there. Overnight train to, let's say Warsaw. We could get to Moscow by Monday morning on a direct train, but the trans-siberian doesn't leave until Tuesday evening.
  • Day 2, Sunday: Warsaw, explore it, overnight train to Kiev
  • Day 3, Monday: Kiev, explore it, overnight train to Moscow
  • Day 4, Tuesday: Moscow, explore it, get on the big train in evening
  • Day 10, Monday: Beijing, explore it, overnight train to Shanghai
  • Day 11, Tuesday: Shanghai, explore it very briefly, ferry at 2pm
  • Day 13, Thursday: Arrive in Osaka at 9am, uh, day in osaka
  • Day 14, Friday: Kyoto, maybe?
  • Day 15, Saturday: One glorious day in Tokyo, or something
  • Day 16, Sunday: Morning in Toyko, and fly home.

Let's see if there are any efficiency savings to be had from doing it in reverse:

  • Day 16, Sunday: Train to Cologne, then Brussels and Eurostar home; we have about 6 hours to spend in one or other on the way.
  • Day 15, Saturday: Get the 8AM train from Moscow, overnight to Berlin.
  • Day 14, Friday: Arrive in Moscow at ~6PM, spend the night there
  • Day 8, Saturday: Day in Beijing, train in the evening
  • Day 7, Friday: Bah. Ferry only arrives on a Thursday, leaving on Tuesday midday, so again we only get like 4 days in Japan this way.

Let's look at it another way: suppose we wanted to go to Japan and other places, how much holiday time would we need?

  • Day n, Sunday: Morning in Tokyo, fly home
  • Day n-1, Saturday: Let's say we're doing this at Comiket. Comiket!
  • Day n-2, Friday: Mickey Comikets early. Other people go do something cultural.
  • Day n-3, Thursday: Tokyo, and all its joys.
  • Day n-4, Wednesday: Kyoto! History!
  • Day n-5, Tuesday: Osaka! Accents!
  • Day n-6, Monday: Arrive Osaka, 09:30, rest weary selves, go to a hot springs or something.
  • Day n-8, Saturday: A little Shanghai in the morning, ferry at 13:00.
  • Day n-9, Friday: I'm going to say spend this in Shanghai, and stay night in Shanghai.
  • Day n-10, Thursday: Day in Beijing, sleeper to Shanghai.

Eek, the only good train runs tuesday to monday.

So, best option would be to extend the original plan above by a bit at the end. Constraints: if going out, train is tuesday -> monday, and ferry is tuesday from shanghai - so not much time in shanghai. If coming back, train goes wed -> mon (at 2:28pm, plausible flying time), ferry could arrive sunday (leaving japan on Friday). So a plausible itinerary would look something like:

  • Friday evening: Gather
  • Saturday hideously early morning: Planes to Japan
  • Sunday morning: Arrive in Tokyo, spend some time there and in Osaka.
  • Friday midday: Get ferry from Osaka
  • Sunday midday: Arrive in Shanghai, spend a day and a half or so there
  • Monday night (say): overnight train to Beijing, spend a day and a half there
  • Wednesday morning, 8AM: get the big train
  • Monday afternoon: Arrive Moscow. Lamers could at this point fly home, meaning they'd only need 2 weeks + 1 day off work; otherwise we could take the rest of the week slowly crossing Europe.