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Being a place for the planning of communal anime viewing. ~~Seasons are named after the relevant anime season; at any given time we may be up to a season "behind" realtime.~~

Being a place for the planning of communal anime viewing.

~~== Future ==~~

~~=== End of very-late-Autumn ===~~

~~{| border="1" cellpadding="2" cellspacing="0"~~

~~| Thunderbolt Fantasy~~

~~| 12~~

|-

~~| Macross Delta~~

~~| 25~~

|-

~~| Full Metal Alchemist: Brotherhood~~

~~| 61~~

|-

~~| Full Metal Alchemist: Brotherhood~~

~~| 62~~

|-

~~| Re: Zero~~

~~| 25~~

|-

~~| Hibike! Euphonium 2~~

~~| 13~~

|}

~~Looks like we have a FMA double-bill two weeks running, plus a 2-slot special, if we can come up with one?~~

~~I'm sure we can come up with one, though all I can think of right now is the first part of TO (Elliptical Orbit). --lmm~~

~~Or perhaps Girls und Panzer OVA plus one other?~~

~~Second Initial D movie, though it would run a little long?~~

=== Winter 2017 Schedule ===

~~Slots~~:

* Little Witch Academia

* Ghost in the Shell: Arise

* Flip Flappers

* Yuri on Ice

* Namiuchigiwa no Muromi-san

* Scum's Wish

* (Action and/or general fast-paced)

== Future ==

** The Legend of Korra?

** Little Witch Academia?

* (Sci-Fi)

** Gatchaman Crowds Insight?

** Ghost in the Shell: Arise?

* (General, faster and/or more serious)

** Flip Flappers?

* (General or sports, slower and/or more lighthearted)

** Yuri on Ice?

* (Comedy)

** Namiuchigiwa no Muromi-san?

** Non Non Biyori?

*** I don't think Non Non Biyori should go in the comedy slot because half of the audience will be bored to tears. - YYY

*** I feel that after two seasons of Rabbit, we're due a change of pace from "girls do everyday stuff in their picturesque town", but that Non Non Biyori could still be a good slot 5 in the future. --maxb

* (Romance and/or drama)

** March Comes In Like a Lion?

*** It is both good and somewhat unusual in tone. Would happily re-watch. --maxb

~~Shortlist and/or not slot-specific:~~

=== Informal planning principles ===

* Kuromukuro

* The Legend of Korra (52 episodes)

** Mixed feelings. Episode 1 was painful, Korra is like another Subaru at the beginning. Fortunately they ease off the "this character is naive due to her upbringing and we need to show it" pretty quickly. Seems like it could have some promise, but the plot development seems very formulaic ("Introduce Heroine. Introduce Teacher. Inevitable heroine/teacher conflict. Introduce allies. Introduce nemesis.") - does it manage to grow beyond this? Also a bit wary of another year-long show. --maxb

*** Does it ever cease being a fantasy adventure show? No, at least not in the part I've seen. Does it get into more complex/ambiguous territory, develop meaningful longer-term arcs, and go beyond simplistic good vs evil? Yes, absolutely. (And Korra does suffer for her mistakes and start to learn from them - she'll always be headstrong but not to the point of incompetence the way she is in the first few episodes)

* Have some reservations about immediately diving into this right after FMAB but I could be persuaded. -MP

* Yuri on Ice?

** Figure skating is sports, right? :-) I was a bit uncertain about it because some of early episodes felt a bit too silly, but it seems to have risen beyond that now that it's entered the tournament arc - so now I think it's a credible option. --maxb

*** Figure skating is indeed sports, given that we've said Karuta is sports. (Also I want the precedent that car racing is sports)

* I will not watch this because I am not gay. -YYY

** This show is becoming more awesome as the season progresses --maxb

** I think it's fair to say it's AOTS - Crunchyroll even got [[DoSed]] by the amount of people all trying to watch the final episode simultaneously upon its release, to the point where they specifically called out Yuri on Ice in their twitter status. --maxb

*** By which I mean "I think it's great and so do lots of other people", not "Lots of people think it's great therefore it must be".

~~=== Potentially interesting links ===~~

* None of this is absolute. These are guidelines only and if following them would mean watching bad shows and not watching good shows then we will overrule them

* ~~A crazy roundup of nearly every first episode~~: ~~http://wrongeverytime.com/2016/10/12/fall~~-~~2016-virtually-every-first~~-episode~~-retrospective/~~

* We watch about 2:30 each week - normally 6 normal-length TV episodes from 6 different shows (watching each show from start to finish at one episode per week)

** ~~Last~~ season ~~has one~~ of ~~them too: http:~~//~~wrongeverytime.com~~/~~2016~~/~~07/13/summer~~-~~2016~~-~~virtually~~-~~every~~-first~~-episode-retrospective/~~

* We try to group the schedule into "seasons" (i.e. start and finish a group of shows at the same time) to provide some structure and (at least theoretically) to give newcomers a reasonable point at which to join.

* ~~Blog~~ that ~~talks~~ about ~~things including Hibike! Euphonium and Saki: http://randomwalloftext.com/~~ - ~~notable~~ for ~~having~~ more ~~posts about Hibike! than there are episodes,~~ and ~~they haven~~'t even ~~finished talking about~~ season ~~1 yet~~.

** Seasons are long enough to complete a "short" show (i.e. 12 or 13 weeks) and do not necessarily align with calendar seasons

** We aim to start shows when they are still airing, but after enough episodes have aired to reasonably evaluate them (usually three or four)

** Seasons are named on this page after the "anime season" from which shows could have appeared in that season

*** i.e. if we start a season just before spring ends and summer begins (or even after a few summer episodes have aired, but not enough for summer shows to be considered for the schedule), we will call that season "spring"

*** i.e. at any given time we may be up to a season "behind realtime"

* Avoid falling into a rut

** We try to enforce a mix of genres by using "slots"

*** Approximate slots

**** Action and/or general fast-paced

**** Sci-Fi

**** General, faster and/or more serious

**** General or sports, slower and/or more lighthearted

**** Comedy

**** Romance and/or drama

** Slot order is so that the tonal arc of the evening makes some sense

*** This sounds really wishy-washy, but at the same time it genuinely is surprisingly important - we've had meetings where we watched things in the "wrong" order for technical reasons and it didn't go well

** We can skip, reassign or "fudge" a slot if there really are no good shows in that genre that season, but we should be very wary if we find ourselves repeatedly skipping the same slot

** "Current" shows generally take priority over older shows

*** If there are not enough schedule-quality shows then we look to recent shows that we considered schedule-quality but did not make the schedule in a previous season, and/or to "classic" shows

* Try to reach a consensus but also to broaden our horizons

** We largely rely on attendees watching at least the first few episodes of a show and then proposing it for the schedule

** We try to avoid scheduling a show that any attendee strenuously objects to

*** This is not absolute, particularly if there are enough "vetos" to make it difficult to assemble a schedule at all

* We would prefer to air a show that some love and others dislike (though not hate) than one that everyone is "meh" about

** This is not to say that shows have to be controversial or provocative (though at the same time we don't shy away from such shows)

*** There is plenty of space for a well-crafted "safe" show, just not for a mediocre one.

*** Shows that are ambitious will ideally be given slightly more leeway regarding weaknesses in other areas.

**** But only slightly.

* We call shows that two or more people supported and no-one strenuously objected to "schedule-worthy" and list them separately below

** Experience suggests that we will most likely air them sooner or later

** This is solely as a matter of practicality; it doesn't imply any firm commitment

* We can and do drop shows partway through, even partway through a season, but only when there is a firm consensus for doing so

** Generally if even one attendee was still enjoying a given show we would not drop it

* The host retains an absolute veto over anything they find genuinely objectionable

** i.e. not just shows I don't like

=== Future possibilities ===

~~"Current" shows always take priority, but it's worth remembering older shows in case a season or two goes by with a shortage of good shows in one or other category.~~

==== Shows that we considered schedule-worthy ====

~~(Informally, this usually means that two or more people supported the proposal and no-one strenuously objected)~~

* Gatchaman Crowds Insight

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* Ghost in the Shell: Arise

* The Legend of Korra

** Mixed feelings. Episode 1 was painful, Korra is like another Subaru at the beginning. Fortunately they ease off the "this character is naive due to her upbringing and we need to show it" pretty quickly. Seems like it could have some promise, but the plot development seems very formulaic ("Introduce Heroine. Introduce Teacher. Inevitable heroine/teacher conflict. Introduce allies. Introduce nemesis.") - does it manage to grow beyond this? Also a bit wary of another year-long show. --maxb

*** Does it ever cease being a fantasy adventure show? No, at least not in the part I've seen. Does it get into more complex/ambiguous territory, develop meaningful longer-term arcs, and go beyond simplistic good vs evil? Yes, absolutely. (And Korra does suffer for her mistakes and start to learn from them - she'll always be headstrong but not to the point of incompetence the way she is in the first few episodes)

* Have some reservations about immediately diving into this right after FMAB but I could be persuaded. -MP

* Ore Monogatari (24)

** An unconventional romance, with lots of storytelling to do along the way, and some comedy moments. Though the subject matter is completely different, the viewing experience feels a bit like Shirayuki-hime - there is a continuity, but it's very episodic. --maxb

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* Hellsing Ultimate

** Almost-veto from Mark, and awkward to fit into a schedule. (10 x double-length episodes)

* March Comes In Like a Lion?

** It is both good and somewhat unusual in tone. Would happily re-watch. --maxb

==== Proposals which have not been fully evaluated ====

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** Caution: Mild spoilers exist in some episode titles.

** A difficult show to comment on without spoilers. I watched it after having its soundtrack turn up on Google Play Music, and then seeing it turn up in an "if you liked 'Your Lie in April' you might like". In retrospect I should have thought a little more about why it was there. Let's just say the ending isn't all sunshine and happiness and leave it at that. I really liked some parts, and the bits I didn't like I still found sufficiently compelling that I stayed up way too late watching the second half of the series all the way through to the end. Whilst I'm not happy with the chosen direction of the plot, I admire the narrative craft. In the words of http://kotaku.com/white-album-2-is-one-of-last-season-s-hidden-gems-1541072591 (which, if you read, you really need to obey the instructions to skip sections containing spoilers): "If you need a serious romantic drama in your life, there are few better emotional rollercoasters in recent anime than White Album 2. Just don’t expect to come out of it feeling happy and fulfilled." --maxb

* Namiuchigiwa no Muromi-san

** Another comedy involving mermaids. 13 min episodes. -YYY

** I've seen this. It's amusing. --maxb

** I found this surprisingly enjoyable (if crude). Would push, though the timing is awkward. --lmm

*** Is going to dinner 10 minutes earlier for a season actually awkward? --maxb

**** Well, it makes the meeting less efficient --lmm

* Thought: pair with BPS? --lmm

* Sabagebu!

** Comedy about high school survival game club. -YYY

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* Very much iyashikei but has some comedic moments. I loved it but I don't think it's everyone's cuppa. --YYY

** I watched episodes 1-2, they were pleasant. --maxb

** I don't think Non Non Biyori should go in the comedy slot because half of the audience will be bored to tears. - YYY

** I feel that after two seasons of Rabbit, we're due a change of pace from "girls do everyday stuff in their picturesque town", but that Non Non Biyori could still be a good slot 5 in the future. --maxb

* クロムクロ (Kuromukuro - "Black Relic")

** 26 episodes, Spring & Summer 2016

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* Blood Blockade Battlefront last episode

* Gunbuster

* Girls und Panzer OVA

* Girls und Panzer the film

** Absolutely brilliant 5/5. Also the OVA is a prerequisite. BD specials for the main series are also worth a watch. --YYY

** I'd like to see it, though at 120m == 5 slots, it's practically a meeting all to itself. --maxb

* Garakowa: Restore the World - a 1h film from Winter 2016, pretty, good music, and interesting enough, though did leave me questioning why they handled the pacing the way they did. --maxb

* Initial D ~~the New Movie~~ (a reboot/retelling of the start of the story with better animation)

* Initial D Legend (a reboot/retelling of the start of the story with better animation - first one watched already)

* Gundam Thunderbolt (OVA, 4x20m)

* TO 2 (Symbiotic Planet) since we watched the first? --lmm

=== Potentially interesting links ===

* A crazy roundup of nearly every first episode: http://wrongeverytime.com/2016/10/12/fall-2016-virtually-every-first-episode-retrospective/

** Last season has one of them too: http://wrongeverytime.com/2016/07/13/summer-2016-virtually-every-first-episode-retrospective/

* Blog that talks about things including Hibike! Euphonium and Saki: http://randomwalloftext.com/ - notable for having more posts about Hibike! than there are episodes, and they haven't even finished talking about season 1 yet.

== Christmas 2016 / New Year 2017 ==

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* Initial D Legend 1

* Gundam Thunderbolt - December Sky

* TO 1 (Elliptical Orbit)

== Autumn 2016 Schedule ==

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 __NOTOC__
-Being a place for the planning of communal anime viewing. Seasons are named after the relevant anime season; at any given time we may be up to a season "behind" realtime.
+Being a place for the planning of communal anime viewing.
-== Future ==
-=== End of very-late-Autumn ===
-{| border="1" cellpadding="2" cellspacing="0"
-|  Thunderbolt Fantasy
-|  12
-|-
-|  Macross Delta
-|  25
-|-
-|  Full Metal Alchemist: Brotherhood
-|  61
-|-
-|  Full Metal Alchemist: Brotherhood
-|  62
-|-
-|  Re: Zero
-|  25
-|-
-|  Hibike! Euphonium 2
-|  13
-|}
-Looks like we have a FMA double-bill two weeks running, plus a 2-slot special, if we can come up with one?
-I'm sure we can come up with one, though all I can think of right now is the first part of TO (Elliptical Orbit). --lmm
-Or perhaps Girls und Panzer OVA plus one other?
-Second Initial D movie, though it would run a little long?
 === Winter 2017 Schedule ===
-Slots:
+* Little Witch Academia
+* Ghost in the Shell: Arise
+* Flip Flappers
+* Yuri on Ice
+* Namiuchigiwa no Muromi-san
+* Scum's Wish
-* (Action and/or general fast-paced)
+== Future ==
-** The Legend of Korra?
-** Little Witch Academia?
-* (Sci-Fi)
-** Gatchaman Crowds Insight?
-** Ghost in the Shell: Arise?
-* (General, faster and/or more serious)
-** Flip Flappers?
-* (General or sports, slower and/or more lighthearted)
-** Yuri on Ice?
-* (Comedy)
-** Namiuchigiwa no Muromi-san?
-** Non Non Biyori?
-*** I don't think Non Non Biyori should go in the comedy slot because half of the audience will be bored to tears. - YYY
-*** I feel that after two seasons of Rabbit, we're due a change of pace from "girls do everyday stuff in their picturesque town", but that Non Non Biyori could still be a good slot 5 in the future. --maxb
-* (Romance and/or drama)
-** March Comes In Like a Lion?
-*** It is both good and somewhat unusual in tone. Would happily re-watch. --maxb
-Shortlist and/or not slot-specific:
+=== Informal planning principles ===
-* Kuromukuro
-* The Legend of Korra (52 episodes)
-** Mixed feelings. Episode 1 was painful, Korra is like another Subaru at the beginning. Fortunately they ease off the "this character is naive due to her upbringing and we need to show it" pretty quickly. Seems like it could have some promise, but the plot development seems very formulaic ("Introduce Heroine. Introduce Teacher. Inevitable heroine/teacher conflict. Introduce allies. Introduce nemesis.") - does it manage to grow beyond this? Also a bit wary of another year-long show.  --maxb
-*** Does it ever cease being a fantasy adventure show? No, at least not in the part I've seen. Does it get into more complex/ambiguous territory, develop meaningful longer-term arcs, and go beyond simplistic good vs evil? Yes, absolutely. (And Korra does suffer for her mistakes and start to learn from them - she'll always be headstrong but not to the point of incompetence the way she is in the first few episodes)
-* Have some reservations about immediately diving into this right after FMAB but I could be persuaded. -MP
-* Yuri on Ice?
-** Figure skating is sports, right? :-)  I was a bit uncertain about it because some of early episodes felt a bit too silly, but it seems to have risen beyond that now that it's entered the tournament arc - so now I think it's a credible option. --maxb
-*** Figure skating is indeed sports, given that we've said Karuta is sports. (Also I want the precedent that car racing is sports)
-* I will not watch this because I am not gay. -YYY
-** This show is becoming more awesome as the season progresses --maxb
-** I think it's fair to say it's AOTS - Crunchyroll even got [[DoSed]] by the amount of people all trying to watch the final episode simultaneously upon its release, to the point where they specifically called out Yuri on Ice in their twitter status. --maxb
-*** By which I mean "I think it's great and so do lots of other people", not "Lots of people think it's great therefore it must be".
-=== Potentially interesting links ===
+* None of this is absolute. These are guidelines only and if following them would mean watching bad shows and not watching good shows then we will overrule them
-* A crazy roundup of nearly every first episode: http://wrongeverytime.com/2016/10/12/fall-2016-virtually-every-first-episode-retrospective/
+* We watch about 2:30 each week - normally 6 normal-length TV episodes from 6 different shows (watching each show from start to finish at one episode per week)
-** Last season has one of them too: http://wrongeverytime.com/2016/07/13/summer-2016-virtually-every-first-episode-retrospective/
+* We try to group the schedule into "seasons" (i.e. start and finish a group of shows at the same time) to provide some structure and (at least theoretically) to give newcomers a reasonable point at which to join.
-* Blog that talks about things including Hibike! Euphonium and Saki: http://randomwalloftext.com/ - notable for having more posts about Hibike! than there are episodes, and they haven't even finished talking about season 1 yet.
+** Seasons are long enough to complete a "short" show (i.e. 12 or 13 weeks) and do not necessarily align with calendar seasons
+** We aim to start shows when they are still airing, but after enough episodes have aired to reasonably evaluate them (usually three or four)
+** Seasons are named on this page after the "anime season" from which shows could have appeared in that season
+*** i.e. if we start a season just before spring ends and summer begins (or even after a few summer episodes have aired, but not enough for summer shows to be considered for the schedule), we will call that season "spring"
+*** i.e. at any given time we may be up to a season "behind realtime"
+* Avoid falling into a rut
+** We try to enforce a mix of genres by using "slots"
+*** Approximate slots
+**** Action and/or general fast-paced
+**** Sci-Fi
+**** General, faster and/or more serious
+**** General or sports, slower and/or more lighthearted
+**** Comedy
+**** Romance and/or drama
+** Slot order is so that the tonal arc of the evening makes some sense
+*** This sounds really wishy-washy, but at the same time it genuinely is surprisingly important - we've had meetings where we watched things in the "wrong" order for technical reasons and it didn't go well
+** We can skip, reassign or "fudge" a slot if there really are no good shows in that genre that season, but we should be very wary if we find ourselves repeatedly skipping the same slot
+** "Current" shows generally take priority over older shows
+*** If there are not enough schedule-quality shows then we look to recent shows that we considered schedule-quality but did not make the schedule in a previous season, and/or to "classic" shows
+* Try to reach a consensus but also to broaden our horizons
+** We largely rely on attendees watching at least the first few episodes of a show and then proposing it for the schedule
+** We try to avoid scheduling a show that any attendee strenuously objects to
+*** This is not absolute, particularly if there are enough "vetos" to make it difficult to assemble a schedule at all
+* We would prefer to air a show that some love and others dislike (though not hate) than one that everyone is "meh" about
+** This is not to say that shows have to be controversial or provocative (though at the same time we don't shy away from such shows)
+*** There is plenty of space for a well-crafted "safe" show, just not for a mediocre one.
+*** Shows that are ambitious will ideally be given slightly more leeway regarding weaknesses in other areas.
+**** But only slightly.
+* We call shows that two or more people supported and no-one strenuously objected to "schedule-worthy" and list them separately below
+** Experience suggests that we will most likely air them sooner or later
+** This is solely as a matter of practicality; it doesn't imply any firm commitment
+* We can and do drop shows partway through, even partway through a season, but only when there is a firm consensus for doing so
+** Generally if even one attendee was still enjoying a given show we would not drop it
+* The host retains an absolute veto over anything they find genuinely objectionable
+** i.e. not just shows I don't like
 === Future possibilities ===
-"Current" shows always take priority, but it's worth remembering older shows in case a season or two goes by with a shortage of good shows in one or other category.
 ==== Shows that we considered schedule-worthy ====
-(Informally, this usually means that two or more people supported the proposal and no-one strenuously objected)
 * Gatchaman Crowds Insight
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 * Ghost in the Shell: Arise
 * The Legend of Korra
+** Mixed feelings. Episode 1 was painful, Korra is like another Subaru at the beginning. Fortunately they ease off the "this character is naive due to her upbringing and we need to show it" pretty quickly. Seems like it could have some promise, but the plot development seems very formulaic ("Introduce Heroine. Introduce Teacher. Inevitable heroine/teacher conflict. Introduce allies. Introduce nemesis.") - does it manage to grow beyond this? Also a bit wary of another year-long show.  --maxb
+*** Does it ever cease being a fantasy adventure show? No, at least not in the part I've seen. Does it get into more complex/ambiguous territory, develop meaningful longer-term arcs, and go beyond simplistic good vs evil? Yes, absolutely. (And Korra does suffer for her mistakes and start to learn from them - she'll always be headstrong but not to the point of incompetence the way she is in the first few episodes)
+* Have some reservations about immediately diving into this right after FMAB but I could be persuaded. -MP
 * Ore Monogatari (24)
 ** An unconventional romance, with lots of storytelling to do along the way, and some comedy moments. Though the subject matter is completely different, the viewing experience feels a bit like Shirayuki-hime - there is a continuity, but it's very episodic. --maxb
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 * Hellsing Ultimate
 ** Almost-veto from Mark, and awkward to fit into a schedule. (10 x double-length episodes)
+* March Comes In Like a Lion?
+** It is both good and somewhat unusual in tone. Would happily re-watch. --maxb
 ==== Proposals which have not been fully evaluated ====
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 ** Caution: Mild spoilers exist in some episode titles.
 ** A difficult show to comment on without spoilers. I watched it after having its soundtrack turn up on Google Play Music, and then seeing it turn up in an "if you liked 'Your Lie in April' you might like". In retrospect I should have thought a little more about why it was there. Let's just say the ending isn't all sunshine and happiness and leave it at that. I really liked some parts, and the bits I didn't like I still found sufficiently compelling that I stayed up way too late watching the second half of the series all the way through to the end. Whilst I'm not happy with the chosen direction of the plot, I admire the narrative craft. In the words of http://kotaku.com/white-album-2-is-one-of-last-season-s-hidden-gems-1541072591 (which, if you read, you really need to obey the instructions to skip sections containing spoilers): "If you need a serious romantic drama in your life, there are few better emotional rollercoasters in recent anime than White Album 2. Just don’t expect to come out of it feeling happy and fulfilled." --maxb
-* Namiuchigiwa no Muromi-san
-** Another comedy involving mermaids. 13 min episodes. -YYY
-** I've seen this. It's amusing. --maxb
-** I found this surprisingly enjoyable (if crude). Would push, though the timing is awkward. --lmm
-*** Is going to dinner 10 minutes earlier for a season actually awkward? --maxb
-**** Well, it makes the meeting less efficient --lmm
-* Thought: pair with BPS? --lmm
 * Sabagebu!
 ** Comedy about high school survival game club. -YYY
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 * Very much iyashikei but has some comedic moments. I loved it but I don't think it's everyone's cuppa. --YYY
 ** I watched episodes 1-2, they were pleasant. --maxb
+** I don't think Non Non Biyori should go in the comedy slot because half of the audience will be bored to tears. - YYY
+** I feel that after two seasons of Rabbit, we're due a change of pace from "girls do everyday stuff in their picturesque town", but that Non Non Biyori could still be a good slot 5 in the future. --maxb
 * クロムクロ (Kuromukuro - "Black Relic")
 ** 26 episodes, Spring & Summer 2016
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 * Blood Blockade Battlefront last episode
 * Gunbuster
+* Girls und Panzer OVA
 * Girls und Panzer the film
 ** Absolutely brilliant 5/5. Also the OVA is a prerequisite. BD specials for the main series are also worth a watch. --YYY
 ** I'd like to see it, though at 120m == 5 slots, it's practically a meeting all to itself. --maxb
 * Garakowa: Restore the World - a 1h film from Winter 2016, pretty, good music, and interesting enough, though did leave me questioning why they handled the pacing the way they did. --maxb
-* Initial D the New Movie (a reboot/retelling of the start of the story with better animation)
+* Initial D Legend (a reboot/retelling of the start of the story with better animation - first one watched already)
 * Gundam Thunderbolt (OVA, 4x20m)
+* TO 2 (Symbiotic Planet) since we watched the first? --lmm
+=== Potentially interesting links ===
+* A crazy roundup of nearly every first episode: http://wrongeverytime.com/2016/10/12/fall-2016-virtually-every-first-episode-retrospective/
+** Last season has one of them too: http://wrongeverytime.com/2016/07/13/summer-2016-virtually-every-first-episode-retrospective/
+* Blog that talks about things including Hibike! Euphonium and Saki: http://randomwalloftext.com/ - notable for having more posts about Hibike! than there are episodes, and they haven't even finished talking about season 1 yet.
 == Christmas 2016 / New Year 2017 ==
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 * Initial D Legend 1
 * Gundam Thunderbolt - December Sky
+* TO 1 (Elliptical Orbit)
 == Autumn 2016 Schedule ==