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** ¥18,790 to fly to Yakushima on Saturday afternoon - 13:20 to 17:35. http://www.jal.co.jp/en/ . Other days flights don't show up - weird - maybe a number of days ahead thing? Flights to Kagoshima are cheaper but then we have to get the hydrofoil or something.
** ¥18,790 to fly to Yakushima on Saturday afternoon - 13:20 to 17:35. http://www.jal.co.jp/en/ . Other days flights don't show up - weird - maybe a number of days ahead thing? Flights to Kagoshima are cheaper but then we have to get the hydrofoil or something.
*** Seems pricey. Also not keen on leaving on the Saturday afternoon, Sunday afternoon would be earliest I'm willing to leave. -YYY
*** Seems pricey. Also not keen on leaving on the Saturday afternoon, Sunday afternoon would be earliest I'm willing to leave. -YYY
**** It is - flying to Kagoshima is substantially cheaper - but do bear in mind the price of the ferry otherwise. I think it'd be better to have a solid block of time in Tokyo at the end rather than a few days at the start and a few at the end, but shrug. And you're right about us being short of time - having sketched out the day-by-day below. --lmm
**** It is - flying to Kagoshima is substantially cheaper - but do bear in mind the price of the ferry otherwise. I think it'd be better to have a solid block of time in Tokyo at the end rather than a few days at the start and a few at the end, but shrug.  
And you're right about us being short of time - having sketched out the day-by-day below. --lmm
* The flight + jetfoil option turns out to be more than the flight (11,290JPY + 8,300JPY) so I take back what I said earlier. The flight to Kagoshima, the Yakushima may be the cheapest option. I discount the ferry because it only runs twice a day and seems like it takes far too long.
* Yakushima - stay 3 nights? (1-2 full days, plus arrival and departure days)
* Yakushima - stay 3 nights? (1-2 full days, plus arrival and departure days)
** Flight from Kagoshima or some form of aquatic transport?
* Flight from Kagoshima or some form of aquatic transport?
** I'd argue for 3 nights if we end up with enough time - my group liked Yakushima a lot last time. --lmm
* I'd argue for 3 nights if we end up with enough time - my group liked Yakushima a lot last time. --lmm
** http://www.h3.dion.ne.jp/~yasuakim/english.html is where we stayed last time.
* http://www.h3.dion.ne.jp/~yasuakim/english.html is where we stayed last time.
** Walk up to the summit and look down on the whole island (1 daytime really)
* Walk up to the summit and look down on the whole island (1 daytime really)
** Perhaps do one of the other walks to see more ancient cedar trees
* Perhaps do one of the other walks to see more ancient cedar trees
** Hot springs, the local baths and/or the JR hotel (1000 yen). List at http://www.yesyakushima.com/yakushima-activities/yakushima-onsen-hot-springs/ (1 or 2 evenings)
* Hot springs, the local baths and/or the JR hotel (1000 yen). List at http://www.yesyakushima.com/yakushima-activities/yakushima-onsen-hot-springs/ (1 or 2 evenings)
* Kagoshima - stay 1 night?
* Kagoshima - stay 1 night?
** Again I don't remember there being much there - would sooner proceed directly to Yakushima --lmm
* Again I don't remember there being much there - would sooner proceed directly to Yakushima --lmm
*** I was tempted by Sakurajima, the active volcano. - YYY
* I was tempted by Sakurajima, the active volcano. - YYY
* Nagasaki - stay 2 nights?
* Nagasaki - stay 2 nights?
** Dejima --Lmm
* Dejima --Lmm
* <s>Fukuoka - stay 1 night?</s>
* <s>Fukuoka - stay 1 night?</s>
** There's really not much there (or if there is then my group didn't find it) - I'd rather go straight on to Nagasaki. Also consider flying - there are flights Tokyo-Kagoshima for about GBP70, which would save most of a day of travel time (remember we can't use the Nozomi shinkansen without paying a supplement). --lmm
* There's really not much there (or if there is then my group didn't find it) - I'd rather go straight on to Nagasaki. Also consider flying - there are flights Tokyo-Kagoshima for about GBP70, which would save most of a day of travel time (remember we can't use the Nozomi shinkansen without paying a supplement). --lmm
*** GBP70 seems reasonable for a flight. There wasn't anything in particular I wanted to do in Fukuoka so going straight to Nagasaki may be preferable. - YYY   
* GBP70 seems reasonable for a flight. There wasn't anything in particular I wanted to do in Fukuoka so going straight to Nagasaki may be preferable. - YYY   
* Ferries back: http://www.yesyakushima.com/getting-to-yakushima/by-sea/
* Ferries back: http://www.yesyakushima.com/getting-to-yakushima/by-sea/
** Tanegashima space center: http://global.jaxa.jp/about/centers/tnsc/index.html
* Tanegashima space center: http://global.jaxa.jp/about/centers/tnsc/index.html
* Shinkansen  to Chugoku?
* Shinkansen  to Chugoku?
** Hiroshima - stay 2 night?
* Hiroshima - stay 2 night?
*** Is there 2 nights' worth of stuff to do there? --lmm
* Is there 2 nights' worth of stuff to do there? --lmm
**** Possibly, James said we could spend one day doing Peace Park and the other going to Miyajima.
* Possibly, James said we could spend one day doing Peace Park and the other going to Miyajima.
***** Had missed that Miyajima was there. Sounds like a plan.
* Had missed that Miyajima was there. Sounds like a plan.
* Shinkansen to Kansai? Meet up with Dave?
* Shinkansen to Kansai? Meet up with Dave?
** Kyoto- 1 night or 2 nights? Are we splitting the party here? - MP
* Kyoto- 1 night or 2 nights? Are we splitting the party here? - MP
*** 2 nights sounds reasonable. I'll stick with the group unless anyone else is interested in striking out. - YYY
* 2 nights sounds reasonable. I'll stick with the group unless anyone else is interested in striking out. - YYY
*** Shrines
* Shrines
**** Fushimi Inari Shrine- I've done it twice before but I'm up for it again if people are interested. The mountain trails are spectacular and you get great views of Kyoto. - MP
* Fushimi Inari Shrine- I've done it twice before but I'm up for it again if people are interested. The mountain trails are spectacular and you get great views of Kyoto. - MP
**** Kiyomizudera- big temple famous for its huge stage jutting out over the hill. Adjacent to a number of other temples and the traditional touristy Higashiyama District. -MP
* Kiyomizudera- big temple famous for its huge stage jutting out over the hill. Adjacent to a number of other temples and the traditional touristy Higashiyama District. -MP
** Traditional theatre
* Traditional theatre
*** Nijo Castle- Tokugawa Ieyasu's pad. Inner castle is usually closed but the gardens look very nice and include a variety of cherry trees that should be blooming when we're there. - MP
* Nijo Castle- Tokugawa Ieyasu's pad. Inner castle is usually closed but the gardens look very nice and include a variety of cherry trees that should be blooming when we're there. - MP
* Shinkansen to Kanto?
* Shinkansen to Kanto?
** Hakone - stay 2 nights?
* Hakone - stay 2 nights?
*** [http://fun2drive-japan.com/car-tours/ fun2drive] is the original JDM sports car entertainment company near Mount Fuji, only 2 hours from Tokyo. Conveniently located at a gateway to the greatest touges (mountain passes) in Japan, we offer the largest fleet of JDM sports cars from NISSAN: Skyline GT-R & Fairlady Z, HONDA: NSX, TOYOTA: Supra & AE86, MAZDA: RX-7, MITSUBISHI: Lancer Evolution, SUBARU: Impreza WRX, and more. Whichever JDM sports car you choose, experience it on a variety of touges in Hakone, a mecca of car enthusiasts in japan, while enjoying the stunning scenery of Mount Fuji, landscapes, lakes, oceans, etc…
* [http://fun2drive-japan.com/car-tours/ fun2drive] is the original JDM sports car entertainment company near Mount Fuji, only 2 hours from Tokyo. Conveniently located at a gateway to the greatest touges (mountain passes) in Japan, we offer the largest fleet of JDM sports cars from NISSAN: Skyline GT-R & Fairlady Z, HONDA: NSX, TOYOTA: Supra & AE86, MAZDA: RX-7, MITSUBISHI: Lancer Evolution, SUBARU: Impreza WRX, and more. Whichever JDM sports car you choose, experience it on a variety of touges in Hakone, a mecca of car enthusiasts in japan, while enjoying the stunning scenery of Mount Fuji, landscapes, lakes, oceans, etc…
**** Considering the [http://fun2drive-japan.com/car-tours/Ultimate_Hakone_Drive.html Ultimate Hakone Drive] in the GT-R R35.
* Considering the [http://fun2drive-japan.com/car-tours/Ultimate_Hakone_Drive.html Ultimate Hakone Drive] in the GT-R R35.
**** If more people do it, then we can swap cars (for a fee).
* If more people do it, then we can swap cars (for a fee).
***** Put me down as interested - I guess the RX-7 would be my first choice --lmm
* Put me down as interested - I guess the RX-7 would be my first choice --lmm
***** Alasdair: I have some interest in this - if I'm reading the price list right it comes to under 50,000 JPY? I'd be happy with most cars, as long as it has power steering and manual transmission. S2000 looks suitably bling, but the Super 7 looks hilarious.
* Alasdair: I have some interest in this - if I'm reading the price list right it comes to under 50,000 JPY? I'd be happy with most cars, as long as it has power steering and manual transmission. S2000 looks suitably bling, but the Super 7 looks hilarious.
** Hakone is famous hot spring country, apparently --lmm
* Hakone is famous hot spring country, apparently --lmm
*** I would be interested in going to one where they let you wear swimming trunks. - YYY
* I would be interested in going to one where they let you wear swimming trunks. - YYY
** Is there two days worth of stuff here, especially for non-drivers? Hakone Shrine looks fun but what else? -MP
* Is there two days worth of stuff here, especially for non-drivers? Hakone Shrine looks fun but what else? -MP
*** The Hakone Tozan Railway looks interesting, and I would interested in seeing the Botanical Gardens or one of the art museums. - YYY
* The Hakone Tozan Railway looks interesting, and I would interested in seeing the Botanical Gardens or one of the art museums. - YYY
**** Works for me. -MP
* Works for me. -MP
* Tokyo:
* Tokyo:
** [http://ms-bunny.com/en Rabbit and hedgehog cafe]
* [http://ms-bunny.com/en Rabbit and hedgehog cafe]
** [https://gurunavi.com/en/g584700/rst/?<u>ngt</u>=TT0c773e930001ac1e4a112ceMZnqYSN_EjdcS3aCnP12g Kujiraya - Whale meat restaurant]
* [https://gurunavi.com/en/g584700/rst/?<u>ngt</u>=TT0c773e930001ac1e4a112ceMZnqYSN_EjdcS3aCnP12g Kujiraya - Whale meat restaurant]
** Perhaps the LittleBSD cafe, having seen the advertising and been amused.
* Perhaps the LittleBSD cafe, having seen the advertising and been amused.
** [http://www.nasu-oukoku.com/contents/english2015.html Nasu Animal Kingdom] In Tochigi Prefecture. You get to feed Capybara!
* [http://www.nasu-oukoku.com/contents/english2015.html Nasu Animal Kingdom] In Tochigi Prefecture. You get to feed Capybara!
** Mahjong in some suitably fancy way (Gemma has offered to arrange) --Lmm
* Mahjong in some suitably fancy way (Gemma has offered to arrange) --Lmm
** Akiharbara etc. (possibly best as a non-group activity)
* Akiharbara etc. (possibly best as a non-group activity)
** Skytree- again, I've done it before, but fantastic view. - MP
* Skytree- again, I've done it before, but fantastic view. - MP
** Ueno Park- over one thousand cherry trees so likely great at this season. Features museums and a zoo. - MP
* Ueno Park- over one thousand cherry trees so likely great at this season. Features museums and a zoo. - MP
** Pop concerts if there are any at the right time? --Lmm
* Pop concerts if there are any at the right time? --Lmm
*** Basically impossible to book from outside with the possible exception of entering the AKB48 lotteries.
* Basically impossible to book from outside with the possible exception of entering the AKB48 lotteries.
* The last remaining sleeper train, Tokyo - Okoyama: http://jprail.com/trains/sort-by-type/limited-express/sunrise-izumo.html
* The last remaining sleeper train, Tokyo - Okoyama: http://jprail.com/trains/sort-by-type/limited-express/sunrise-izumo.html
* <s>Shinkansen to Hokkaido?</s> We almost definitely don't have enough days for it to be worth it.
* <s>Shinkansen to Hokkaido?</s> We almost definitely don't have enough days for it to be worth it.
** I have a vague interest in taking the sleeper train and going to the underwater station. Might well not be worth it in terms of the time though. --lmm
* I have a vague interest in taking the sleeper train and going to the underwater station. Might well not be worth it in terms of the time though. --lmm
*** No sleeper trains to Hokkaido. Underwater stations also now shut.
* No sleeper trains to Hokkaido. Underwater stations also now shut.
* Jigokudani Monkey Park (Snow Monkeys) (Nagano) ?
* Jigokudani Monkey Park (Snow Monkeys) (Nagano) ?
* 10/04/2017: Leave Japan.
* 10/04/2017: Leave Japan.