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***** The flight + jetfoil option turns out to be more than the flight (11,290JPY + 8,300JPY) so I take back what I said earlier. The flight to Kagoshima, the Yakushima may be the cheapest option. I discount the ferry because it only runs twice a day and seems like it takes far too long. - YYY

***** Are you sure you're considering the cheapest options for flights? Hyperdia generally gives overpriced flights. The Jetstar flight to Kagoshima is only ¥4300 one way if we book now. - JN

* Yakushima - stay 3 nights? (1-2 full days, plus arrival and departure days)

** Flight from Kagoshima or some form of aquatic transport?

** I'd argue for 3 nights if we end up with enough time - my group liked Yakushima a lot last time. --lmm

** http://www.h3.dion.ne.jp/~yasuakim/english.html is where we stayed last time.

** Walk up to the summit and look down on the whole island (1 daytime really)

** Perhaps do one of the other walks to see more ancient cedar trees

** Hot springs, the local baths and/or the JR hotel (1000 yen). List at http://www.yesyakushima.com/yakushima-activities/yakushima-onsen-hot-springs/ (1 or 2 evenings)

* Kagoshima - stay 1 night?

** Again I don't remember there being much there - would sooner proceed directly to Yakushima --lmm

*** I was tempted by Sakurajima, the active volcano. - YYY

* Nagasaki - stay 2 nights?

** Dejima --Lmm

* <s>Fukuoka - stay 1 night?</s>

** There's really not much there (or if there is then my group didn't find it) - I'd rather go straight on to Nagasaki. Also consider flying - there are flights Tokyo-Kagoshima for about GBP70, which would save most of a day of travel time (remember we can't use the Nozomi shinkansen without paying a supplement). --lmm

*** GBP70 seems reasonable for a flight. There wasn't anything in particular I wanted to do in Fukuoka so going straight to Nagasaki may be preferable. - YYY

* Ferries back: http://www.yesyakushima.com/getting-to-yakushima/by-sea/

* Tanegashima space center: http://global.jaxa.jp/about/centers/tnsc/index.html

* Shinkansen to Chugoku?

** Hiroshima - stay 2 night?

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** I can help with booking via ePlus if there's anything major - JN

** If you're fine with going to see a group you've never heard of, there's almost certainly something, but it's too early to book: https://calendar.google.com/calendar/embed?src=jhqrtl9na3gev1vihqnpt3qvgo@group.calendar.google.com - JN

* Jigokudani Monkey Park (Snow Monkeys) (Nagano) ?

* 10/04/2017: Leave Japan.

== Flight details ==

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* Do stuff in Tokyo

* Afternoon: fly to Yakushima? (since there is definitely a flight that day)

* Evening: Baths

* Evening: Baths. Local baths and/or the JR hotel (1000 yen). List at http://www.yesyakushima.com/yakushima-activities/yakushima-onsen-hot-springs/ (1 or 2 evenings)

* Stay in Yakushima for 3 nights. http://www.h3.dion.ne.jp/~yasuakim/english.html is where we stayed last time.

=== Sun, 26/03/2017 ===

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* Yakushima day 2

** Day: walk around the old cedar trees

** Evening: baths

** Stay on Yakushima

=== Tue, 28/03/2017 ===

* Ferries: http://www.yesyakushima.com/getting-to-yakushima/by-sea/

* Team space: Tanegashima

** Morning: ferry to Tanegashima (possibly involving an early start to get to the port on the time)

** Day: space centre tour

** Day: space centre tour http://global.jaxa.jp/about/centers/tnsc/index.html

** Evening: ferry to Kagoshima (arrive 18:40)

* Team Kagoshima:

** Morning: ferry direct to Kagoshima

** ~~Day: Kagoshima~~

** I was tempted by Sakurajima, the active volcano. - YYY

* Stay in Kagoshima

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* Nagasaki day 1

** Morning: travel there (Note that this takes around 3:30 from Kagoshimachuo, a little longer from Kagoshima central. Sakura shinkansen should be ok with the JR pass).

** Afternoon: Stuff

** Afternoon: Stuff.

* Dejima at some point

=== Thu, 30/03/2017 ===

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=== Thu, 06/04/2017 ===

* Tokyo day 1 ~~(or maybe the monkey park if we really want to)~~

* Tokyo day 1

** Jigokudani Monkey Park sounds cool, but is probably too far for a day trip and not worth an overnight trip

=== Fri, 07/04/2017 ===

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 ***** The flight + jetfoil option turns out to be more than the flight (11,290JPY + 8,300JPY) so I take back what I said earlier. The flight to Kagoshima, the Yakushima may be the cheapest option. I discount the ferry because it only runs twice a day and seems like it takes far too long. - YYY
 ***** Are you sure you're considering the cheapest options for flights? Hyperdia generally gives overpriced flights. The Jetstar flight to Kagoshima is only ¥4300 one way if we book now. - JN
-* Yakushima - stay 3 nights? (1-2 full days, plus arrival and departure days)
-** Flight from Kagoshima or some form of aquatic transport?
-** I'd argue for 3 nights if we end up with enough time - my group liked Yakushima a lot last time. --lmm
-** http://www.h3.dion.ne.jp/~yasuakim/english.html is where we stayed last time.
-** Walk up to the summit and look down on the whole island (1 daytime really)
-** Perhaps do one of the other walks to see more ancient cedar trees
-** Hot springs, the local baths and/or the JR hotel (1000 yen). List at http://www.yesyakushima.com/yakushima-activities/yakushima-onsen-hot-springs/ (1 or 2 evenings)
-* Kagoshima - stay 1 night?
-** Again I don't remember there being much there - would sooner proceed directly to Yakushima --lmm
-*** I was tempted by Sakurajima, the active volcano. - YYY
-* Nagasaki - stay 2 nights?
-** Dejima --Lmm
-* <s>Fukuoka - stay 1 night?</s>
-** There's really not much there (or if there is then my group didn't find it) - I'd rather go straight on to Nagasaki. Also consider flying - there are flights Tokyo-Kagoshima for about GBP70, which would save most of a day of travel time (remember we can't use the Nozomi shinkansen without paying a supplement). --lmm
-*** GBP70 seems reasonable for a flight. There wasn't anything in particular I wanted to do in Fukuoka so going straight to Nagasaki may be preferable. - YYY
-* Ferries back: http://www.yesyakushima.com/getting-to-yakushima/by-sea/
-* Tanegashima space center: http://global.jaxa.jp/about/centers/tnsc/index.html
 * Shinkansen  to Chugoku?
 ** Hiroshima - stay 2 night?
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 ** I can help with booking via ePlus if there's anything major - JN
 ** If you're fine with going to see a group you've never heard of, there's almost certainly something, but it's too early to book: https://calendar.google.com/calendar/embed?src=jhqrtl9na3gev1vihqnpt3qvgo@group.calendar.google.com - JN
-* Jigokudani Monkey Park (Snow Monkeys) (Nagano) ?
-* 10/04/2017: Leave Japan.
 == Flight details ==
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 * Do stuff in Tokyo
 * Afternoon: fly to Yakushima? (since there is definitely a flight that day)
-* Evening: Baths
+* Evening: Baths. Local baths and/or the JR hotel (1000 yen). List at http://www.yesyakushima.com/yakushima-activities/yakushima-onsen-hot-springs/ (1 or 2 evenings)
+* Stay in Yakushima for 3 nights. http://www.h3.dion.ne.jp/~yasuakim/english.html is where we stayed last time.
 === Sun, 26/03/2017 ===
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 * Yakushima day 2
 ** Day: walk around the old cedar trees
-** Evening: baths
-** Stay on Yakushima
 === Tue, 28/03/2017 ===
+* Ferries: http://www.yesyakushima.com/getting-to-yakushima/by-sea/
 * Team space: Tanegashima
 ** Morning: ferry to Tanegashima (possibly involving an early start to get to the port on the time)
-** Day: space centre tour
+** Day: space centre tour http://global.jaxa.jp/about/centers/tnsc/index.html
 ** Evening: ferry to Kagoshima (arrive 18:40)
 * Team Kagoshima:
 ** Morning: ferry direct to Kagoshima
-** Day: Kagoshima
+** I was tempted by Sakurajima, the active volcano. - YYY
 * Stay in Kagoshima
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 * Nagasaki day 1
 ** Morning: travel there (Note that this takes around 3:30 from Kagoshimachuo, a little longer from Kagoshima central. Sakura shinkansen should be ok with the JR pass).
-** Afternoon: Stuff
+** Afternoon: Stuff.
+* Dejima at some point
 === Thu, 30/03/2017 ===
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 === Thu, 06/04/2017 ===
-* Tokyo day 1 (or maybe the monkey park if we really want to)
+* Tokyo day 1
+** Jigokudani Monkey Park sounds cool, but is probably too far for a day trip and not worth an overnight trip
 === Fri, 07/04/2017 ===