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== Plan N+1 ==
== Plan N+1 ==
=== Location ===
=== Location ===
* Japan?
* Japan?
** It is probable that I (Smith) can provide a bilingual guide and possibly limited accomodation in Osaka
** It is probable that I (Smith) can provide a bilingual guide and possibly limited accomodation in Osaka
*** I would furthermore suggest that we do perhaps two major places (say Osaka and Tokyo) with a simple and painless transition between them
*** I would furthermore suggest that we do perhaps two major places (say Osaka and Tokyo) with a simple and painless transition between them
**** Not necessarily convinced - I rather liked the flying visit approach of the previous trip - but in practice I guess there're not so many places in Japan. I would want to see Kyoto at least, but that's a perfectly reasonable excursion from Osaka. --Lmm
**** Not necessarily convinced - I rather liked the flying visit approach of the previous trip - but in practice I guess there're not so many places in Japan. I would want to see Kyoto at least, but that's a perfectly reasonable excursion from Osaka. --Lmm
* dash it all what *is* it that you see in japan
* The Trans-Siberian Railway has been proposed with varying levels of seriousness
* The Trans-Siberian Railway has been proposed with varying levels of seriousness
** I meant it entirely seriously, but thought it would be best combined with the above (especially since I expect few people other than me to be interested) --Lmm
** I meant it entirely seriously, but thought it would be best combined with the above (especially since I expect few people other than me to be interested) --Lmm
*** Apparently it is not as time-consuming as I (Smith) thought
*** Apparently it is not as time-consuming as I (Smith) thought
*** six days four hours on the actual train, moscow to vladivostok (this is not allowing for touring time)
* Soviet Central Asia, China and Mongolia are also interesting places if we wish to go somewhere exotic
* Soviet Central Asia, China and Mongolia are also interesting places if we wish to go somewhere exotic
* Could do a road trip 2.0 to Istanbul now that we know about Kompas car rental; a Croatia/Serbia/Romania/Bulgaria/Turkey/Greece/Macedona/Albania/Kosovo/Bosnia route would actually have very little overlap with the previous effort
* Could do a road trip 2.0 to Istanbul now that we know about Kompas car rental; a Croatia/Serbia/Romania/Bulgaria/Turkey/Greece/Macedona/Albania/Kosovo/Bosnia route would actually have very little overlap with the previous effort
** i rather like this idea
* Israel, Palestine and perhaps some neighbouring countries would be interesting (and likely cheaper than venturing further afield), but I (Smith - who else, ololol) expect the Kosovo Passport Issue returns with a vengeance if we do this
* Israel, Palestine and perhaps some neighbouring countries would be interesting (and likely cheaper than venturing further afield), but I (Smith - who else, ololol) expect the Kosovo Passport Issue returns with a vengeance if we do this
** and i expect that the "swathes of desert punctuated by terrorists" issue rears its ugly head


=== Dates ===
=== Dates ===
* A year after the previous one?
* A year after the previous one?
** Good for purposes of holiday allowance
** Good for purposes of holiday allowance
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=== Things to bear in mind ===
=== Things to bear in mind ===
* There is a significant danger that this will become hilariously expensive
* There is a significant danger that this will become hilariously expensive


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* Lmm
* Lmm
* Smith
* Smith
* mr edward a. heaney (probably)


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