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**** Not necessarily convinced - I rather liked the flying visit approach of the previous trip - but in practice I guess there're not so many places in Japan. I would want to see Kyoto at least, but that's a perfectly reasonable excursion from Osaka. --Lmm | **** Not necessarily convinced - I rather liked the flying visit approach of the previous trip - but in practice I guess there're not so many places in Japan. I would want to see Kyoto at least, but that's a perfectly reasonable excursion from Osaka. --Lmm | ||
* dash it all what *is* it that you see in japan | * dash it all what *is* it that you see in japan | ||
** When you look into the abyss, &c | |||
* The Trans-Siberian Railway has been proposed with varying levels of seriousness | * The Trans-Siberian Railway has been proposed with varying levels of seriousness | ||
** I meant it entirely seriously, but thought it would be best combined with the above (especially since I expect few people other than me to be interested) --Lmm | ** I meant it entirely seriously, but thought it would be best combined with the above (especially since I expect few people other than me to be interested) --Lmm | ||
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*** six days four hours on the actual train, moscow to vladivostok (this is not allowing for touring time) | *** six days four hours on the actual train, moscow to vladivostok (this is not allowing for touring time) | ||
* Soviet Central Asia, China and Mongolia are also interesting places if we wish to go somewhere exotic | * Soviet Central Asia, China and Mongolia are also interesting places if we wish to go somewhere exotic | ||
** Combining this and the above, I (Smith) note that one can go from Moscow to Beijing by starting out on the Trans-Siberian and changing at Tarskaya, and that this is in fact substantially shorter than going all the way to Vladivostok | |||
* Could do a road trip 2.0 to Istanbul now that we know about Kompas car rental; a Croatia/Serbia/Romania/Bulgaria/Turkey/Greece/Macedona/Albania/Kosovo/Bosnia route would actually have very little overlap with the previous effort | * Could do a road trip 2.0 to Istanbul now that we know about Kompas car rental; a Croatia/Serbia/Romania/Bulgaria/Turkey/Greece/Macedona/Albania/Kosovo/Bosnia route would actually have very little overlap with the previous effort | ||
** i rather like this idea | ** i rather like this idea | ||
* We could potentially hire '''in''' Istanbul, from where we can turn either West or East | |||
* Israel, Palestine and perhaps some neighbouring countries would be interesting (and likely cheaper than venturing further afield), but I (Smith - who else, ololol) expect the Kosovo Passport Issue returns with a vengeance if we do this | * Israel, Palestine and perhaps some neighbouring countries would be interesting (and likely cheaper than venturing further afield), but I (Smith - who else, ololol) expect the Kosovo Passport Issue returns with a vengeance if we do this | ||
** and i expect that the "swathes of desert punctuated by terrorists" issue rears its ugly head | ** and i expect that the "swathes of desert punctuated by terrorists" issue rears its ugly head | ||
Revision as of 12:55, 4 May 2011
A Road Trip was held and was a great success; see PlanN
Plan N+1
Location
- Japan?
- It is probable that I (Smith) can provide a bilingual guide and possibly limited accomodation in Osaka
- I would furthermore suggest that we do perhaps two major places (say Osaka and Tokyo) with a simple and painless transition between them
- Not necessarily convinced - I rather liked the flying visit approach of the previous trip - but in practice I guess there're not so many places in Japan. I would want to see Kyoto at least, but that's a perfectly reasonable excursion from Osaka. --Lmm
- I would furthermore suggest that we do perhaps two major places (say Osaka and Tokyo) with a simple and painless transition between them
- It is probable that I (Smith) can provide a bilingual guide and possibly limited accomodation in Osaka
- dash it all what *is* it that you see in japan
- When you look into the abyss, &c
- The Trans-Siberian Railway has been proposed with varying levels of seriousness
- I meant it entirely seriously, but thought it would be best combined with the above (especially since I expect few people other than me to be interested) --Lmm
- Apparently it is not as time-consuming as I (Smith) thought
- six days four hours on the actual train, moscow to vladivostok (this is not allowing for touring time)
- I meant it entirely seriously, but thought it would be best combined with the above (especially since I expect few people other than me to be interested) --Lmm
- Soviet Central Asia, China and Mongolia are also interesting places if we wish to go somewhere exotic
- Combining this and the above, I (Smith) note that one can go from Moscow to Beijing by starting out on the Trans-Siberian and changing at Tarskaya, and that this is in fact substantially shorter than going all the way to Vladivostok
- Could do a road trip 2.0 to Istanbul now that we know about Kompas car rental; a Croatia/Serbia/Romania/Bulgaria/Turkey/Greece/Macedona/Albania/Kosovo/Bosnia route would actually have very little overlap with the previous effort
- i rather like this idea
- We could potentially hire in Istanbul, from where we can turn either West or East
- Israel, Palestine and perhaps some neighbouring countries would be interesting (and likely cheaper than venturing further afield), but I (Smith - who else, ololol) expect the Kosovo Passport Issue returns with a vengeance if we do this
- and i expect that the "swathes of desert punctuated by terrorists" issue rears its ugly head
Dates
- A year after the previous one?
- Good for purposes of holiday allowance
- At Comiket time?
Things to bear in mind
- There is a significant danger that this will become hilariously expensive
Attendees
- Lmm
- Smith
- mr edward a. heaney (probably)