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* On a scale of ''n'' to ''m'', how attached are we to the idea of road-tripping as a method of transport?
* On a scale of ''n'' to ''m'', how attached are we to the idea of road-tripping as a method of transport?
** road trip = trip by interesting transport (boat? (delian league, etc.)) = defined-tickbody train trip (trans-siberian railway) > train trip > excursions from a hub by road > excursions from a hub by train
** road trip = trip by interesting transport (boat? (delian league, etc.)) = defined-tickbody train trip (trans-siberian railway) > train trip > excursions from a hub by road > excursions from a hub by train
*** For my part, I (Smith) feel a train trip would not need to be a famous proper noun in order to compare favourably with a road trip; it would need merely to be sufficiently epic in scope (viz., Moscow-Beijing, Moscow-Ulan Baator-Beijing, Berlin-Novosibirsk etc)
** For my part, I (Smith) feel a train trip would not need to be a famous proper noun in order to compare favourably with a road trip; it would need merely to be sufficiently epic in scope (viz., Moscow-Beijing, Moscow-Ulan Baator-Beijing, Berlin-Novosibirsk etc)


=== Attendees ===
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